Remarkably complete’ 3.8-million-year-old cranium of human ancestor discovered in Ethiopia

[SkepticThinker]

Have you any evidence from science that man at the creation of the world era had lifespans of ANY amount? If so, let's see it. If not, then science is useless and sidelined on the issues.

The evidence we have indicates that human life expectancy was shorter than it is now, actually. In Biblical times the average lifespan was 30-35 years - not 900 years.

So, we have Scripture accounts of ancient life. We have some ancient history. Unless you wave these all away, there you go! Now if you do wave these away, fine. You are left with no records and no science that applies! Darkness and ignorance.

Scriptures are stories - not evidence.
So you have no evidence for your claim.
I'll remember that the next time you make it.

 

[dad]

The evidence we have indicates that human life expectancy was shorter than it is now, actually. In Biblical times the average lifespan was 30-35 years - not 900 years.

No, that is recent man, post flood. You have nothing for pre flood man.

Scriptures are stories - not evidence.

In your religion, yes. Newsflash: your belief system is not the only one!
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[dad]

The evidence we have indicates that human life expectancy was shorter than it is now, actually. In Biblical times the average lifespan was 30-35 years - not 900 years.

No, that is recent man, post flood. You have nothing for pre flood man.

Scriptures are stories - not evidence.

In your religion, yes. Newsflash: your belief system is not the only one!
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[SkepticThinker]

No, that is recent man, post flood. You have nothing for pre flood man.

There is no evidence for a global flood.

In your religion, yes. Newsflash: your belief system is not the only one!
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No, that is the case in your religion. I don't follow any religions. I follow EVIDENCE.

Scriptures contain claims only. The same claims you're making. You have yet to produce evidence for these claims. Scripture doesn't contain evidence for it's claims either.
Claims in old books don't cut it just because you want them to.

 

[dad]

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There is no evidence for a global flood.

Not that your religion could see or would acknowledge if it could!

No, that is the case in your religion. I don't follow any religions. I follow EVIDENCE.

You splatter evidence with your religion. Then get self righteous about it and deny deny deny.

Scriptures contain claims only.

Says your religion, which is claims only!

The same claims you're making. You have yet to produce evidence for these claims.

Your religion can see no evidence and obsesses on splashing evidences with it's methodical molestations.

Your evo fables and fable factory are simply rejected out of hand. Forever. Totally. Wholeheartedly. Happily, eagerly.

 

[SkepticThinker]

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Not that your religion could see or would acknowledge if it could!

I do not follow any religion.

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You splatter evidence with your religion. Then get self righteous about it and deny deny deny.
Says your religion, which is claims only!

I do not follow any religion.

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Your religion can see no evidence and obsesses on splashing evidences with it's methodical molestations.

I do not follow any religion.

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Your evo fables and fable factory are simply rejected out of hand. Forever. Totally. Wholeheartedly. Happily, eagerly.

Are you done deflecting yet, or are you finally going to present evidence for your extraordinary claims?

Funny how you demand evidence from everyone else for well established scientific theories but can't manage to produce any evidence for the claims you keep assuring us are all true and accurate. Double standards?

 

[dad]

I do not follow any religion.

Your religion does not admit to being one. No news here.

Are you done deflecting yet, or are you finally going to present evidence for your extraordinary claims?

Hey, the thread is trying to date some little monkey skull with dates derived from beliefs, and associate the cranium with man! That is the claims you need to address. Stop trying to hide under other religions.

Funny how you demand evidence from everyone else for well established scientific theories

Your religion calls godless fables based on nothing but faith 'well established scientific theories..'.

Lurkers, just remember that means fables.

but can't manage to produce any evidence for the claims you keep assuring us are all true

The claim that matters is that your same nature in the past belief dating and TOE are utterly indefensible and religious twaddle.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Okay, so you have no evidence for your claims. At all. Just deflection after deflection.

Until the day comes when you can present anything backing up your claims, I will consider your posts to be the joke that they are.


I do not follow any religion. Mark that down so you can remember it and stop repeating the same erroneous claim over and over (though that seems to be your MO). TIA.

 

[dad]

Okay, so you have no evidence for your claims. At all. Just deflection after deflection.

Until the day comes when you can present anything backing up your claims, I will consider your posts to be the joke that they are.


I do not follow any religion. Mark that down so you can remember it and stop repeating the same erroneous claim over and over (though that seems to be your MO). TIA.

OK, so you cannot defend your religion and cannot admit you have one. You have no support for the same nature in the past used in all models of the past. So you must run. We get it. Cheers

 

[gnostic]

No, that is the case in your religion. I don't follow any religions. I follow EVIDENCE.

Scriptures contain claims only. The same claims you're making. You have yet to produce evidence for these claims. Scripture doesn't contain evidence for it's claims either.
Claims in old books don't cut it just because you want them to.

dad doesn't understand that he is using circular reasoning, by trying to justify the bible's claims (and his belief) with more claims from the bible.

He doesn't understand that's not how evidence works.

If he didn't have his head buried in the sand, he would be chasing his own tail.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Hey, at least the records are not so absurdly silly that they say the universe sprung forth from a pepper sized hot soup speck, or that man shared ancestors with a tomato!

You'll really say just about anything as long as it gives you an opening to bash science, won't you?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I am not too fussy I like it all! Historical, scientific, such as how the continents separated, the fossil record, etc etc. All the evidence supports my beliefs. Of course when you submerge the evidences in your indoctrination system/religion/beliefs/methodology it can seem to support your position also.

Just repeating that you have evidence, isn't a demonstration that you actually have evidence.
Still waiting for a single piece of evidence.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Well, name any evidence from science you think does not support my beliefs.

Don't dodge.

You were asked for evidence that supports your beliefs, since you claimed to have such evidence.
Why can't you just answer the question?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

So, we have Scripture accounts of ancient life.

We also have scripture accounts of Thor slaying ice giants and Jupiter throwing lightning bolts.

Here's the thing: scripture = more claims.

You are asked for evidence. You are not asked to give more claims.
In fact, since your beliefs are in fact the claims of your religion, whatever evidence you come up with necessarily has to be something else then the claims you are believing.

So do you have evidence or not?

We have some ancient history. Unless you wave these all away, there you go!

You wave it away as well. Or do you also believe that Jupiter throws lightning bolts and that Thor slayed the ice giants?

Now if you do wave these away, fine. You are left with no records and no science that applies! Darkness and ignorance.

We are talking about your claims and the evidence YOU claim to have.
We are asking YOU to share this evidence.

When are you going to?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

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Says your religion, which is claims only!

No, says logic.
The bible stories are the claims. They aren't evidence of themselves.
Just like Thor slaying Ice Giants are just stories, not evidence it actually happened.

If you claim that the mere existance of the bible stories means they happened, then that same logic has to apply to all other ancient stories.
So then I guess you believe that Jupiter throws lightning bolts and that Thor slayed the Ice Giants.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

OK, so you cannot defend your religion and cannot admit you have one. You have no support for the same nature in the past used in all models of the past. So you must run. We get it. Cheers

The null hypothesis doesn't require any evidence.

 

[dad]

The null hypothesis doesn't require any evidence.

Nor any respect.

 

[dad]

No, says logic.
The bible stories are the claims. They aren't evidence of themselves.
Just like Thor slaying Ice Giants are just stories, not evidence it actually happened.

If you claim that the mere existance of the bible stories means they happened, then that same logic has to apply to all other ancient stories.
So then I guess you believe that Jupiter throws lightning bolts and that Thor slayed the Ice Giants.

If you claim a same nature in the past, it is a story unless you prove it.

 

[dad]

We also have scripture accounts of Thor slaying ice giants and Jupiter throwing lightning bolts.

Here's the thing: scripture = more claims.

You are asked for evidence. You are not asked to give more claims.
In fact, since your beliefs are in fact the claims of your religion, whatever evidence you come up with necessarily has to be something else then the claims you are believing.

So do you have evidence or not?



You wave it away as well. Or do you also believe that Jupiter throws lightning bolts and that Thor slayed the ice giants?



We are talking about your claims and the evidence YOU claim to have.
We are asking YOU to share this evidence.

When are you going to?

The object here is not for you to express opinions about God or His word or pagan beliefs of old. Your quest is to defend the belief based claims science makes. I think that little monkey whose skull they found had more sense.

 

[dad]

Just repeating that you have evidence, isn't a demonstration that you actually have evidence.
Still waiting for a single piece of evidence.

Name any scientific evidence you have that you think supports your models for evolution of life on earth or man. That will become my evidence probably.