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Repetition: Another proof of God.

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
Human life has arisen once, why people need this " Explosion of luck" to conclude their arguement, is beyond me. I mean, what is the maximun amount of luck you need to support your view of the orgin of the Universe?


Actually, my theory is that there is a God and he used physics and other applicable natural laws to create the universe. So, no amount of luck was required . . .

Unless, of course, you consider the freakishly fortunate accident that resulted in the universe producing something as heavenly as Scotch Whiskey . . . now that had to be almost "magical" in nature given that Scotch turned out as good as it did.
 

no-body

Well-Known Member
Human life has arisen once, why people need this " Explosion of luck" to conclude their arguement, is beyond me. I mean, what is the maximun amount of luck you need to support your view of the orgin of the Universe? What is the scale of reason of such an explosion happening, 1 in 100 billion billion? If DNA and its copying machinery arose spontaneously from a lucky explosion, then we can assume that life is indeed rare in the Universe and give its orgin to anything we can imagine- " Other than God Creating it spontaneously."

We would rather give it to self creating Luck, or some invisible " Primeval Soup", which the lucky nothing produced one incredible day in time-- time which began itself.

If the human mind cannot comprehend God, then it will never comprehend the orgin of all things.

Peace.

Or maybe people who look to science would rather wait to find evidence instead of proclaiming grand arrogant answers with no proof. The big bang is a theory that has been composed from the evidence we have. If a newer, better one comes along then science will switch to that one.

But if you can't see the absurdity of equating a philosophy with 1+1= 2 then there is no point of debate.

(I'm still waiting for that peer reviewed study by the way)
 

no-body

Well-Known Member
Look in my thread " Biblical Archaeology", post numbers 185 and 186,

You'll find the sources there.

Peace.

One is an archeological site which proves nothing more than some of the things in the bible happened. The other is a site with a terrible flash movie that I can't get past and I wouldn't trust the objectivity of a site called "anointed one" anyway. None of these prove your scientific "proofs"
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
One is an archeological site which proves nothing more than some of the things in the bible happened. The other is a site with a terrible flash movie that I can't get past and I wouldn't trust the objectivity of a site called "anointed one" anyway. None of these prove your scientific "proofs"


They all prove them to me, but I have more, http:Anointed-One.net.

Peace.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Mat 6:7

[FONT=Times New Roman,Times] Greek: Proseuchomenoi (PMPMPN) de me battalogesete (2PAAS) hosper hoi ethnikoi, dokousin (3PPAI) gar hoti en te polulogia auton eisakousthesontai. (3PFPI)[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman,Times] Amplified: And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking ([FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Amplified Bible - Lockman[/FONT])[/FONT]
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KJV: But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times] NLT: When you pray, don't babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered only by repeating their words again and again. (NLT - Tyndale House)[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times]Philips: And when you pray don't rattle off long prayers like the pagans who think they will be heard because they use so many words. (New Testament in Modern English)
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times] Wuest: Moreover, when praying, do not repeat the same thing over and over as the pagans do, for they think that they will be heard because of their multiplicity of words. (Wuest: Expanded Translation: Eerdmans)
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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times] Young's Literal: And -- praying -- ye may not use vain repetitions like the nations, for they think that in their much speaking they shall be heard[/FONT]



LOL, wrong again :foot:
Repetition / Mantra is a big NO NO, another product of 'evil' pagan faiths.




EM

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mickiel

Well-Known Member
One of the chief componants of Gods repetition, is eternity itself; what God does, he will continue to do it forever, over and over again. In example, I will give a short list of the things God will repeatedly do for eternity:

God will Love, and continue to Love.

God will be Kind, and continue to be that way.

God will be Patient, and will repeatedly display that way of being.

God will have a Joyful disposition, and keep having it, over and over and over again, in fact, he will never stop doing it. Or any of these things.

This Repetition is God, it is his eternity, and he will do these things without end. Thus, Repetition is one reflection of God, and we can see some of that being displayed now in our world of flesh.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.
 

no-body

Well-Known Member
They all prove them to me, but I have more, http:Anointed-One.net.

Peace.

The only "sources" I see there are the bible and a creationist professor. All the "evolutionist" quotes are cherry picked and argued with barely any context. And it still dosen't prove your explanations of heat death, carbon dating of carbon-14 and so called universal decay either.

Let me ask you did you create the site or do all religious pseudo-intellectuals hang around the same place spouting cryptic gibberish?
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
The only "sources" I see there are the bible and a creationist professor. All the "evolutionist" quotes are cherry picked and argued with barely any context. And it still dosen't prove your explanations of heat death, carbon dating of carbon-14 and so called universal decay either.

Let me ask you did you create the site or do all religious pseudo-intellectuals hang around the same place spouting cryptic gibberish?


It proved it to me. The gibberish fed me to my satisfaction, it convinced me, and is excellent in my view.

But I understand that my diet is just not for you. What nurishes me, is simply not for you. But I certainly enjoy it. And I have more sites for your rejection, if you need to reject more.

Peace.
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
In our local universe, entropy always increases with time. As entropy increases, complexity increases. Intelligence can only arise from complexity. The universe was hot and is cooling. Complexity is related to cooling. We will be most intelligent just before we freeze solid, if an open universe scenerio.
The universe, assuming "Big Bang" or in fact the less dramatic "great expansion" correct, was hot and of low entropy, almost ZERO complexity, INCAPABLE of intelligence, therefore at the beginning there is absolutely NO possiblity of a god/creator type creature (because the entity would require an intelligence, by definition).
This does not rule out the possibility of a god eventually, ie a supreme intelligence, but given these facts about the physical universe, the intelligence required is large the complexity even larger and the universe must be a lot colder, before a real god is possibly created. Perhaps in another 50-100billion years there may be an entity that possesses the properties proclaimed by those of a religious kink, but they will be waiting a long, long, long time yet.

All religions contradict the above universal facts. If they wish to be believed, then this dichotomy should be addressed.
Cheers
 
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mickiel

Well-Known Member
One of the chief componants of Gods repetition, is eternity itself; what God does, he will continue to do it forever, over and over again. In example, I will give a short list of the things God will repeatedly do for eternity:

God will Love, and continue to Love.

God will be Kind, and continue to be that way.

God will be Patient, and will repeatedly display that way of being.

God will have a Joyful disposition, and keep having it, over and over and over again, in fact, he will never stop doing it. Or any of these things.

This Repetition is God, it is his eternity, and he will do these things without end. Thus, Repetition is one reflection of God, and we can see some of that being displayed now in our world of flesh.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.


God will plan and continue to Plan.

God will provide and continue to provide.

God will communicate, ( Oh I can't wait for this one) and always communicate.

God will teach, and repeatedly teach his children.

God will reveal, and will continue to reveal things.

Repetition is proof of God.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
Repetition is proof of God, its all around us. The Sun keeps doing the same thing everyday, the Moon does the same thing, the Earth itself keeps doing the same orbit, and if any of these variate from their orbit, it would be chaos! But their order is just another proof of God. Their size is a proof of God, and their atmospheres are proof of God.

Things that only God can do.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
God will plan and continue to Plan.

God will provide and continue to provide.

God will communicate, ( Oh I can't wait for this one) and always communicate.

God will teach, and repeatedly teach his children.

God will reveal, and will continue to reveal things.

Repetition is proof of God.

Peace.


Repetition is proof of God.

God will ignore humanity and continue to ignore us until hes ready.

God will continue to bring proof out of the earth as a witness to himself through Archaeology.

God will continue to blind humans so they cannot see him until hes ready.

God will continue to hide himself, day after day, until hes ready.

Peace.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
God will continue to Love us all, and THAT is our only Hope.

And with that, I close this thread.

Peace.
 

no-body

Well-Known Member
It proved it to me. The gibberish fed me to my satisfaction, it convinced me, and is excellent in my view.

That isn't how debate works

But I understand that my diet is just not for you. What nurishes me, is simply not for you. But I certainly enjoy it. And I have more sites for your rejection, if you need to reject more.

Peace.

That would be fine except you are always claiming you have some great self evident proofs that will shut the atheist up forever and show once and for all that there is a God. Your story seems to change a lot. Was Jesus power about being mischievous and lying?
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
That isn't how debate works



That would be fine except you are always claiming you have some great self evident proofs that will shut the atheist up forever and show once and for all that there is a God. Your story seems to change a lot. Was Jesus power about being mischievous and lying?


I am done with the subject.

Peace.
 

it's_sam

Freak of Nature
mickiel you apearantly have a very powerfull process of thought, wich as im sure you know is up and down as far as fealing level in that. You have a good purpose but remember what lead you to your home at heart is only one path of many. What your pushing for is a connection between your path and the other paths you see around you. I know how hard it is to see struggle of such magnitude with only "difference" as a cause. We all need to find our path our own way, just be ready at any time for a person ready for your words and you will see how they can shine.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
mickiel you apearantly have a very powerfull process of thought, wich as im sure you know is up and down as far as fealing level in that. You have a good purpose but remember what lead you to your home at heart is only one path of many. What your pushing for is a connection between your path and the other paths you see around you. I know how hard it is to see struggle of such magnitude with only "difference" as a cause. We all need to find our path our own way, just be ready at any time for a person ready for your words and you will see how they can shine.


I am not pushing for a path with others, I am looking for a path to God.

And just can't seem to get on it.

Peace.
 
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