Replace "God" with "my mind"

[Pagan Spiritualist]

For someone who claims to know nothing, you seem to be awash in assertions.

Though I know nothing I still can dabble in thoughts of "what if"

 

[Darkwater]

Hey Pagan Spiritualist,

If you keep noticing things like this we will have to buy you a rattle.

Your mind forgave itself,maybe the biggest step in the progress of mankind....or biggest babystep

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

LoL! This is a delightful conversation to say the least! :bounce

Ok, lets replace "God" with the Matrix. perhaps someone inside the matrix could know he was inside the matrix but he would have to be separate from it in some way to be able to control it. perhaps have access codes or something. I mean a program cant hijack your PC unless it has the right software/codes to do so, right? even if a program could know it was just a program in a computer wouldnt give it control over that computer.

Maybe, just maybe, religion and magick and science are just ways people have invented to try and control the Program? One seeks to appease the great Computer, one seeks to randomly type in codes and see what happens, and another tries to reason out the language the Computer uses and try and create its own programs?

BUT each still tries to play Master Programmer to all the other little sub-programs floating around there! :angel2:

Way to use your brain power to think about that. You have added to my mind.

 

[Random]

For the sake of argument I'm always wrong, I always object to myself. I reject the validity of all things, including myself. Since I'm adamant in what I hope is true - and that's all I can really do, hope - which is faith.

Yes, I take based on faith the fact the universe exists, the fact that I'm alive. But I do know one truth, happiness. I like to be happy, being happy feels good. But what if it actually doesn't feel good? Well, then I don't care, because it seems to feel good to me. Hmm, I reject all truth but don't care if it's true so I go along with it anyway, if it feels good.

If you reject knowledge your left with happiness, which is why they say ignorance is bliss.(I'm using broad terms again there's times when the opposite is true)

Good post. You seem to have it pegged nicely for yourself, congratulations.

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

So if I don't believe in it, it can't kill me?

Or so some people say... The power of belief is supposed to be able to do anything, according to some. But you, nor any rational human being, can't truly believe they're not going to die, can they? So the question isn't realistic.

But if you truly believe it you're not going to die, with all your heart and mind, who knows. Biologically it would be difficult to theorize how the power of belief could make someone not die, considering the way we age.

 

[Willamena]

Or so some people say... The power of belief is supposed to be able to do anything, according to some. But you, nor any rational human being, can't truly believe they're not going to die, can they? So the question isn't realistic.

But if you truly believe it you're not going to die, with all your heart and mind, who knows. Biologically it would be difficult to theorize how the power of belief could make someone not die, considering the way we age.

I side with the old Zen Masters in believing that "this is it".

But I agree, it's nice to imagine.

 

[Troublemane]

...But if you truly believe it you're not going to die, with all your heart and mind, who knows. Biologically it would be difficult to theorize how the power of belief could make someone not die, considering the way we age.

Well I dont know about that. One of my best friends was seriously hurt in a car accident and I really believed she and I were going to meet for coffee or something in a few days. It was later when I called that I found out all this happened, but then I believed she would get out of the hospital alive--it all seemed so likely she would recover, and besides, nobody EXPECTS to die. But she caught pneumonia and died, and I found out about it a day after it happened, ...Again, totally unexpected, and totally against what I believed would happen.

So...belief? Maybe cant really affect the physical world. Maybe its more a metaphor, like if you believe enough you can move mountains..one pebble at a time! LoL, but defy the laws of physics, etc?...Nope. IMO Not likely, not directly anyways.

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

Well I dont know about that. One of my best friends was seriously hurt in a car accident and I really believed she and I were going to meet for coffee or something in a few days. It was later when I called that I found out all this happened, but then I believed she would get out of the hospital alive--it all seemed so likely she would recover, and besides, nobody EXPECTS to die. But she caught pneumonia and died, and I found out about it a day after it happened, ...Again, totally unexpected, and totally against what I believed would happen.

So...belief? Maybe cant really affect the physical world. Maybe its more a metaphor, like if you believe enough you can move mountains..one pebble at a time! LoL, but defy the laws of physics, etc?...Nope. IMO Not likely, not directly anyways.

You haven't read as much into this as I have. Wish I could find a link that could say all I've read... It might make sense to you(though not all of it makes sense to me, deeper in, the bull crap about the power of belief comes out)

You aren't taking into consideration her subconscious mind, what you believe has nothing to do with what your subconscious mind knows(the knowledge and facts it's been feed from the time you were born, and your natural instincts) Which is why the power of belief is bull crap when you get to a certain point. Some people are f.u.b.a.r, and their subconscious mind knows it. Their conscious mind may deny it greatly or even be oblivious to it though. The power of belief can't make lead into gold(well, bad example, because lead can and has turned into gold with modern science), but it can help some situations.

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

Wouldn't that be the universe being true? *girn*

Nope, it would just be you thinking the knife is real, and thinking it's going through your face, and thinking your dying. It doesn't mean it's real, does it?

:slap:

 

[zenzero]

Friend PS,

Just because you think it doesn't make it true...
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.

This is because you may not have experience of the *STILL MIND*
from the *THINKING MIND* what you say could be right.
However from a still mind there is neither knowing or unknowing everything falls in a grey area as only consciousness remains; rest nothing matters.

Love & rgds

 

[Willamena]

The same way you can die if our universe is false.

In what way can I die if our universe is false? *looks around*

A knife through your face, alright?

Nope, it would just be you thinking the knife is real, and thinking it's going through your face, and thinking your dying. It doesn't mean it's real, does it?

:slap:

What's the difference?

 

[Pagan Spiritualist]

What's the difference?

Oh, finally after all these questions, we can get to a solid point...
You find out when you die. :clap

 

[Darkwater]

ROFL...any other good news?

apply the knife to the cradle of filth you still attach yourself to PS,you maybe get somewhere instead of *cutting your nose off to spite yer face*

 

[Willamena]

Oh, finally after all these questions, we can get to a solid point...
You find out when you die. :clap

But then I'll be dead, so there'll be no finding out.

 

[Darkwater]

Well done Wils,

you have successfully replaced your "mind" with something that maybe rot you from the inside out if you are not careful?

If the subject matter of this thread is the zenith,you have maybe reached the Nadir so the only way is up.

 

[Willamena]

you have successfully replaced your "mind" with something that maybe rot you from the inside out if you are not careful?

Like... my "mind"? Or perhaps you were talking about something else (hint, no "inside").

 

[Darkwater]

A giant Cli-tor-us?

*gasps*