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Republican and Democrat Senators / Congress people join forces to try to propose legislation to restrict (in some cases ban) social media use under 18

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
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My comments: I've seen good arguments on both sides - for and against - such a thing. One good argument against it is the privacy concerns that ID verification, etc, could introduce.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Caught this story from a more reliable source some days (weeks?) ago.

My general impression of it is it is the wrong solution for the right problem.

The real problem in my view is that the United States has woefully lagged behind on privacy (and consumer) protections especially with respect to the digital realm. Simply targeting this niche issue is not the solution - what we need are overarching reforms and protections. Specifically, a swift end to surveillance capitalism (or at least very heavy regulation). That would deal with the problem with minors inherently, as well as providing respite for the many, many adults who also have an issue with how corporations collect and (mis)handle their personal information.

Edited to add - also, how corporations design systems that psychologically manipulate and coerce users for profit aims. This is especially egregious today in the mobile gaming and video gaming industry.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
It should be ideally banned for everyone. Smartphones should be banned, too. It just turns people into mentally ill zombies, young and old, but especially the young. They're all ****ed in the head. Gen Z is insanely screwed, but Gen Alpha and whatever comes after are going to be devastating to witness. There was a time before all of this and it was better. We actually spoke to each other before using our voices, and even in person.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
It should be ideally banned for everyone. Smartphones should be banned, too. It just turns people into mentally ill zombies, young and old, but especially the young. They're all ****ed in the head. Gen Z is insanely screwed, but Gen Alpha and whatever comes after are going to be devastating to witness. There was a time before all of this and it was better. We actually spoke to each other before using our voices, and even in person.
Sure. Because freedom.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Sure. Because freedom.
I'm not interested in letting parasitic, out of control tech monopolies reengineer and destroy humanity for their own profit and whatever else the psychopaths are getting out of it. The duty of the State is to serve the people and uphold their interests. It's our damn tax money that we earned, after all. It's obvious, and there are numerous studies, that "social media" has psychologically harmed society, especially young people who are depressed and killing themselves in epidemic numbers when young people should be full of zest and idealism. So the government, if it serves the people's interests, should do something to rein it in. How dare I expect the least amount of civic duty from the schmucks who steal from my paycheck every week.

"Screw your freedom", as Arnold said about people who refuse the shots. We threw out freedom long ago, so don't start with me about that.
 
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Orbit

I'm a planet
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My comments: I've seen good arguments on both sides - for and against - such a thing. One good argument against it is the privacy concerns that ID verification, etc, could introduce.

I am reminded of the 1980s, when Tipper Gore and other concerned members of Congress held hearings because Twisted Sister and other bands were ruining the youth. I think the youth will survive social media.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I am reminded of the 1980s, when Tipper Gore and other concerned members of Congress held hearings because Twisted Sister and other bands were ruining the youth. I think the youth will survive social media.
No one was killing themselves or developing mental health problems (like eating disorders, anxiety and depression) or negative social contagions over lame *** Twisted Sister in the '80s. Not the same with Facebook and the rest. Shoot, they kill themselves and murder others on Facebook and the others for all to see, and even the platforms do **** all about it.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I'm not interested in letting parasitic, out of control tech monopolies reengineer and destroy humanity for their own profit and whatever else the psychopaths are getting out of it. The duty of the State is to serve the people and uphold their interests. It's our damn tax money that we earned, after all. It's obvious, and there are numerous studies, that "social media" has psychologically harmed society, especially young people who are depressed and killing themselves in epidemic numbers when young people should be full of zest and idealism. So the government, if it serves the people's interests, should do something to rein it in. How dare I expect the least amount of civic duty from the schmucks who steal from my paycheck every week.

"Screw your freedom", as Arnold said about people who refuse the shots. We threw out freedom long ago, so don't start with me about that.
Sure. Because fascism.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
No one was killing themselves or developing mental health problems (like eating disorders, anxiety and depression) or negative social contagions over lame *** Twisted Sister in the '80s. Not the same with Facebook and the rest.

Actually they claimed that ALL of that was happening, including suicide.
 

Callisto

Hellenismos, BTW
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My comments: I've seen good arguments on both sides - for and against - such a thing. One good argument against it is the privacy concerns that ID verification, etc, could introduce.
I've longed felt that no one under the age of 18 should be on social media and the functionality of (and amount of time) using mobile devices (internet, games) should be limited. There's no reason children shouldn't learn to use technology since we're in the digital age, however, the extent and circumstances should be far more supervised than it typically is. Issues regarding cyberbullying, pedophiles, and even childhood obesity would be cut down tremendously, if not to nil. The means are there to do so but no one seems interested in using them.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
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My comments: I've seen good arguments on both sides - for and against - such a thing. One good argument against it is the privacy concerns that ID verification, etc, could introduce.

This is all backwards. Under 18s can't vote. The ban should be on voting age adults.
 

Exaltist Ethan

Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
I'm not interested in letting parasitic, out of control tech monopolies reengineer and destroy humanity for their own profit and whatever else the psychopaths are getting out of it. The duty of the State is to serve the people and uphold their interests. It's our damn tax money that we earned, after all. It's obvious, and there are numerous studies, that "social media" has psychologically harmed society, especially young people who are depressed and killing themselves in epidemic numbers when young people should be full of zest and idealism. So the government, if it serves the people's interests, should do something to rein it in. How dare I expect the least amount of civic duty from the schmucks who steal from my paycheck every week.

"Screw your freedom", as Arnold said about people who refuse the shots. We threw out freedom long ago, so don't start with me about that.
Until they rule Religious Forums.com a social media website and ban that too. You're completely exaggerating the problem.
 
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