Republican Senate report on Russian Collusian

[Riders]

So...those exact words don't indicate collusion.
They indicate Russian interference.

To be clear, I intensely dislike Trump, but am not going to read things into text that aren't there because of it. If it is there, happy to admit to it, but I haven't seen it.
I think unstated inferences are being drawn.

But I have a question for you . Sense according to you all is wonderful in the Trump camp and there is abso;ut;y no proof of any wrong doing what so ever including colluusion, Trump should be happy as a bug in rug with the intelligence committee.

I would like to know from you why did he get up yesterday on twiitter screaming about the NSA and Intelligence committee being in a witch hunt? What you say makes no sense because if it were true Trump would be happy but hes pissed off and throwing fits at the intelligence people. So what your saying makes no sense.

Trump only gets mad and throws fits if he thinks they have got something on him. Sorry not buying it.

 

[Riders]

If it was going to happen, we would have had signs of it by now.

Trump isn't going anywhere unless he's voted out in 2020. Collusion is not an impeachable offense.It's not even against the law. Obstruction of justice is impeachable, but as Rosenstein told Trump, he's not even under investigation.

Keep on hoping though.

Oh no no no I never ever said hes going to be impeached. Its possible he could get a recommendation for impeachment,by Mueller, but I doubt it. He could,but if he does he probably won't be impeached I agree with you.


My best hope is that in 2020 we get rid of him. But on the other hand I would like it if we end up sending his son and maybe his wife to jail. That would be punishment enough and I do think its possible that they may get his family.

But I am hoping for a good midterm election with 3rd party seats being filled and a lot of dems. That way we could get Republicans out of the house and that would be my big dream.

I think if Mueller recommends an impeachment the house probably won't do it. But it would be nice to get a recommendation hanging over his head, nice big black mark and hopefully it would help the Dems take over especially in 2020.

 

[Phantasman]

A Prez can be impeached for pretty much anything.
It's determined by the desire of Congress, & that's what sets a high bar.
Collusion, if established, could easily clear that bar.
But so far, the loyal opposition is utterly failing to establish that.
So they'll be disappointed in their attempt to have Pence fill SCOTUS vacancies.

I think if the President can be pretty much impeached for anything, Maxine Waters would have found that by now.

To get a President impeached, especially after the being elected by the people, they better show a reason better than that they just don't like him.

 

[Phantasman]

Oh no no no I never ever said hes going to be impeached. Its possible he could get a recommendation for impeachment,by Mueller, but I doubt it. He could,but if he does he probably won't be impeached I agree with you.


My best hope is that in 2020 we get rid of him. But on the other hand I would like it if we end up sending his son and maybe his wife to jail. That would be punishment enough and I do think its possible that they may get his family.

But I am hoping for a good midterm election with 3rd party seats being filled and a lot of dems. That way we could get Republicans out of the house and that would be my big dream.

I think if Mueller recommends an impeachment the house probably won't do it. But it would be nice to get a recommendation hanging over his head, nice big black mark and hopefully it would help the Dems take over especially in 2020.

Mueller is a special council investigator. He only gathers facts for the Grand Jury. He cannot recommend impeachment no more than Comey had the right to "judge" the fate of Hillary Clinton. But I wish he would. Then he'd be in the same trouble Comey is.

Abdrew Wiseman can attempt to prosecute the President. Doubt it would go anywhere.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fc73c5eafc5e

 

[Riders]

Mueller is a special council investigator. He only gathers facts for the Grand Jury. He cannot recommend impeachment no more than Comey had the right to "judge" the fate of Hillary Clinton. But I wish he would. Then he'd be in the same trouble Comey is.

Abdrew Wiseman can attempt to prosecute the President. Doubt it would go anywhere.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fc73c5eafc5e

What do you think hes gathering the info for, hes got into on stuff he put in a report and he can make recommendations. I saw that on a political show by an expert politician on the subject actually who had a lot of knowledge about the Nixon impeachment. I didn't make this up this was said by some one with a doctor degree in Political science, are you a dr of Political science who worked on the Nixon case?

If not I won't take you on your word. But I will do more research on it and put it up here off the net.

 

[Riders]

Actually its not even Mueller who can make a recommendation I should not have written that that way. Mueller gives the report to Rosenstien an d Rosenstien decides what to do with it.

He can make a recommendation or decide to do nothing. But he gives the recommendation to the House. Sense its all Republican most likely they would not vote to Impeach but the House is the one who ultimately has the decision to impeach.

BTW sense Trump talked about firing Rosenstein while back because of this info and spoke about the fact that Rosenstien can decide to recommend or not to Impeach, I am sure you are not a Trump fan considering what your saying goes all against the talk and anger Trump has had about Rosenstien and wanting ti fire him.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think if the President can be pretty much impeached for anything, Maxine Waters would have found that by now.

She isn't hated enuf by enuf in Congress.

To get a President impeached, especially after the being elected by the people, they better show a reason better than that they just don't like him.

True dat.
But these days, that is the criterion advanced by Democrats, albeit
gussied up with faith that something more will be found eventually.

 

[Estro Felino]

She isn't hated enuf by enuf in Congress.

True dat.
But these days, that is the criterion advanced by Democrats, albeit
gussied up with faith that something more will be found eventually.

It's a self-defense mechanism...they cannot accept he was elected because people voted for him.
Because accepting it (closure) would be devastating.
So Russiagate is a way to survive.

Here it's happening the same thing...the left has been losing since 2018 the national, regional and municipal elections...and they're so disoriented

 

[Revoltingest]

It's a self-defense mechanism...they cannot accept he was elected because people voted for him.
Because accepting it (closure) would be devastating.
So Russiagate is a way to survive.

And of course seething venomous hatred for Trump & anyone who voted for him.
It keeps the troops rallied to have a powerful enemy.
I don't resent them for voting for the incompetent crooked war monger.
Some have understandable reasons for preferring her.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

They do indicate collusion. Sense they went out of their way to help Trump your saying Trump had nothing to do with this, they did it for no good reason. That's rediculous. They would not do it unless they though Trump was colluding with them.

Like I said...unstated inferences.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

But I have a question for you . Sense according to you all is wonderful in the Trump camp and there is abso;ut;y no proof of any wrong doing what so ever including colluusion, Trump should be happy as a bug in rug with the intelligence committee.

I would like to know from you why did he get up yesterday on twiitter screaming about the NSA and Intelligence committee being in a witch hunt? What you say makes no sense because if it were true Trump would be happy but hes pissed off and throwing fits at the intelligence people. So what your saying makes no sense.

Trump only gets mad and throws fits if he thinks they have got something on him. Sorry not buying it.

This is kind of ridiculous.
I'm not a Trump supporter. Quite the opposite.
And I think it's entirely possible there was collusion.
But the report you said confirms collusion does no such thing as far as I can tell.

 

[Phantasman]

What do you think hes gathering the info for, hes got into on stuff he put in a report and he can make recommendations. I saw that on a political show by an expert politician on the subject actually who had a lot of knowledge about the Nixon impeachment. I didn't make this up this was said by some one with a doctor degree in Political science, are you a dr of Political science who worked on the Nixon case?

If not I won't take you on your word. But I will do more research on it and put it up here off the net.

It is why, my friend, I said it was a soap opera. Until it all comes out, we merely speculate. As an independent, if Trump is found guilty, I'll accept it. If he isn't, would you accept it?

Wishing something is true is not truth. That's all I.m saying.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is kind of ridiculous.
I'm not a Trump supporter. Quite the opposite.
And I think it's entirely possible there was collusion.
But the report you said confirms collusion does no such thing as far as I can tell.

I'm no fan of Trump either.
If he's indeed guilty of some crime worthy of impeachment, then so be it.
But what concerns me is Pence waiting in the wings to replace him
So many Democrats want him nominating the next Supreme Ct Justice.
Ugh.

 

[Phantasman]

She isn't hated enuf by enuf in Congress.

True dat.
But these days, that is the criterion advanced by Democrats, albeit
gussied up with faith that something more will be found eventually.

The country is trying to change. We used to worry about Nazi's, then Communists, then Muslim extremism. Now, we are concerned about a movement within. The progressives.

The people will decide. If we are to be socialists, so be it. I can live either way, as a retiree. But losing the best person gets the best job would be a lose, IMO. I see the lazy and incompetent so large now, that it attacks the very fabric that made this county the greatest nation ever. To adopt European standards, just makes us equal to them, and I can see their issues daily.

You get the government you deserve.

 

[Revoltingest]

The country is trying to change. We used to worry about Nazi's, then Communists, then Muslim extremism. Now, we are concerned about a movement within. The progressives.

Hold yer horses there, bub....I am a progressive.
I took a test. As I recall, I'm 95% progressive,
which is more than most of my self proclaimed ilk.

The people will decide. If we are to be socialists, so be it. I can live either way, as a retiree. But losing the best person gets the best job would be a lose, IMO. I see the lazy and incompetent so large now, that it attacks the very fabric that made this county the greatest nation ever. To adopt European standards, just makes us equal to them, and I can see their issues daily.

You get the government you deserve.

I get the government that Democrats & Republicans deserve.
This sucks.

 

[Phantasman]

Hold yer horses there, bub....I am a progressive.
I took a test. As I recall, I'm 95% progressive,
which is more than most of my self proclaimed ilk.

I get the government that Democrats & Republicans deserve.
This sucks.

I see progressives wanting to change the country too quickly. If the country wants to accept progressive ideology that fine. But to force then to do so, is a blow against progressive thought.

People hate change. To force them to change.only results in defiance.

If your idea is better, show it. Don't force it.

What "test" does one take to see that they are progressive?

 

[Revoltingest]

What "test" does one take to see that they are progressive?

It was somewhere on RF.
I suppose another could be found on the internet.
Everything can be found on the internet.
Even proof of 131 year old cyborg Hitler living with Amelia
Earhart in a yurt in the New Jersey Pine Barrens.