The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
I am actually hoping we get rid of the human element in government and let the machines boss us around. I envision a cyber-bureaucratic dictatorship in our future.
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Republics Are the Most Stable Governments So Far
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Yeah, people die. Maybe like in Warhammer 40K we'll have an immortal Emperor someday.
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
She also can dismiss parliament
We'll let China try it out, first. Ok with you?
The Reverend Bob
Fart Machine and Beastmaster
You think the machines will satisfy their insatiable thirst for power and control with just China?
She lost this right in 2011, unfortunately. I am almost tempted to start a petition to give her it back.
We're well on our way. The computer tells me when I have a meeting and I do what it said. The phone tells me I have a call and I answer it. The microwave tells me that my food is done and I eat it. So I'm being conditioned to obey our glorious cybernetic overlords - may the rule forever.
The Brits are well on their way to replacing the old Liberal and Conservative parties with new parties. In that, they are ahead of us here in the USA.
This is new territory, but seriously speaking for a country to be ruled by AI successfully? That assumes the continuity of systems. You can't assume that. What you can do is introduce limited chaos at random in order to preclude an extinction level logic cascade. In short -- you implement a Republic.
Queen Elizabeth II owns every dolphin in Britain and doesn't need a driving license — here are the incredible powers you didn't know the monarchy has
Apparently she used to have that power.
The Queen previously wielded the power to dissolve Parliament and call a general election, but the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act put an end to that in 2011. Now a two-thirds vote in the commons is required to dissolve Parliament before a five-year fixed-term is up.
But still owns all of the dolphins and swans in the UK.
She can still take ownership of any property. Like if she goes into a pub and the owner is rude, she can take the pub.
Queen Elizabeth II owns every dolphin in Britain and doesn't need a driving license — here are the incredible powers you didn't know the monarchy has
Apparently she used to have that power.
The Queen previously wielded the power to dissolve Parliament and call a general election, but the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act put an end to that in 2011. Now a two-thirds vote in the commons is required to dissolve Parliament before a five-year fixed-term is up.
But still owns all of the dolphins and swans in the UK.
It should happen more often
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yep and subjugation was the rule of the land.
Stability enables commerce. Stability supports innovation. Stability provides a place for culture to develop.No, Japan isn't older. For 500+ years Japan was ruled by the Shogun with the shogunate and not emperors. So that period was a military dictatorship and not a monarchy.
They still had a monarchy during that time.
I am not that familiar with Sparta and Athens. I have heard some. Towards the end Spartans had that very extreme military culture where the higher class fought and murdered in order to have slaves and an easy life, and only fighters had any honor. Farmers were chattel. History is a little fuzzy, though. There are indications that it is common to spread terrible false histories about one's enemies and those who are not in your own group. For example you know the story of the Minotaur? It seems designed to parody the Minoan civilization which was later wiped out by a Tsunami. I'm not that familiar though with how we know what we do about Spartans. You'd think from stories that the farmers had no minds and didn't exist, but maybe they and the merchants benefited from the Spartan stability. Maybe maybe not. Archeology reveals Spartans had a horrible little slave theater and circus. Apparently they did more than just fight, but I don't know if they were stable. Did they really have stability? Did Athenians?
Japan's History seems more telling. I'm also not extremely knowledgeable here but during a period of stability they developed lots of things like name brand advertising, set prices in retail stores, umbrellas, new kinds of theater, cool new pottery, new textiles. Of course you could chalk it up to something else like limited capitalism or limited freedom. I'm not the one to say for sure, but they had very long periods of stability with one ruler over their islands. The cultural advancement seems simply down to people having a little breathing space from war and a little extra time on their hands.
Are there some other examples besides Sparta? How about something in Europe?
Industrialization is always fast. USA adopted it just as fast as it came. Industry does not equal progress though and better lives, and industry can replace or destroy culture. Industry can be uneven benefiting only some (people) and not others.
I have been told Plato also didn't like technology. He was a scared person who wanted absolutely no change. The late author and terrible theologian CS Lewis is the same. Lewis survives the first world war and sees technology as an evil, and in his fiction he makes it the face of Satan. Many other writers have done similarly, but Lewis believes it is evil. It bends his theology, too. Plato and he both worship at the altars of stability, conservatism and stagnation. If Lewis had lived to see the atomic bomb...woah. What things he would have written then! Plato would have said "I was right!" They were both wrong, however.