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Restaurants now charging 30 dollars for a regular size pizza in NY.

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Revoltingest

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Unless he's the attending physician who is caring for and releasing his grandfather, I see no reason he has to be there. Do you think it's a valid excuse to miss the first day of training, which is limited to 8 per class, where his absence left a hole where another motivated new hire could have started sooner? If so, why? Because I know if I cared about my job, I would arrange for someone else to be there when he was discharged to take care of his needs.

Also, I just now received attendance for today's training class. I had 5 people scheduled to begin training today. Two showed up.
The problem is more general.
Selling on Craig’s List, few people who agree to buy something actually show up. I begin to wonder if it’s a game to pretend to buy.
 

Debater Slayer

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Unless he's the attending physician who is caring for and releasing his grandfather, I see no reason he has to be there. Do you think it's a valid excuse to miss the first day of training, which is limited to 8 per class, where his absence left a hole where another motivated new hire could have started sooner? If so, why? Because I know if I cared about my job, I would arrange for someone else to be there when he was discharged to take care of his needs.

I should start this by saying that we're approaching it from completely different cultural backgrounds. Family ties are almost sacred where I live, and yes, staying with one's grandparent at the hospital would be a valid reason for a delay in almost all jobs here.

That said, I can't form an opinion on whether this particular person was irresponsible without knowing the details of his grandfather's condition. Did it suddenly worsen? Is it critical? Has it remained stable since he knew about the schedule and therefore could have organized his time around that?

I would do everything I could to show up on time, but sometimes emergencies happen. I don't know whether this was an emergency for that person, so I'm neither going to say he did his best nor conclude that he was necessarily entitled or irresponsible.

Also, I just now received attendance for today's training class. I had 5 people scheduled to begin training today. Two showed up.

That's different from the above situation. I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume that not all of the three absentees had justifiable reasons.
 

Revoltingest

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Unless he's the attending physician who is caring for and releasing his grandfather, I see no reason he has to be there. Do you think it's a valid excuse to miss the first day of training, which is limited to 8 per class, where his absence left a hole where another motivated new hire could have started sooner? If so, why? Because I know if I cared about my job, I would arrange for someone else to be there when he was discharged to take care of his needs.

Also, I just now received attendance for today's training class. I had 5 people scheduled to begin training today. Two showed up.
Mu favorite was an employee who showed up drunk his first day. Should I have offered a raise to motivate him to be sober? Was it unfair to fire him?
 

SalixIncendium

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The problem is more general.
Selling on Craig’s List, few people who agree to buy something actually show up. I begin to wonder if it’s a game to pretend to buy.

Very similar to the issue I have with people who schedule interview with me. About a third of the people who are scheduled actually show up.
 

Debater Slayer

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Hardly any workers anywhere make minimum wage though.

That's part of my statement: if nobody makes minimum wage, is it possible that the minimum wage is just unrealistic per current circumstances and should be changed accordingly?

If someone makes $20/hour while the minimum wage is $15/hour, they would be making minimum wage if it were raised to $20/hour.
 

SalixIncendium

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That said, I can't form an opinion on whether this particular person was irresponsible without knowing the details of his grandfather's condition. Did it suddenly worsen? Is it critical? Has it remained stable since he knew about the schedule and therefore could have organized his time around that?

Sadly, you have all the information I have. I replied but received no response.
 

Revoltingest

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I worked with a guy who showed up late one day.
He attended his wife’s funeral.
This was acceptable.
He was a good designer on my project at GM.
 

SalixIncendium

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Mu favorite was an employee who showed up drunk his first day. Should I have offered a raise to motivate him to be sober? Was it unfair to fire him?

You should have footed the bill to put him into rehab, because that would be hella profitable for you.
 

SalixIncendium

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I worked with a guy who showed up late one day.
He attended his wife’s funeral.
This was acceptable.
He was a good designer on my project at GM.

Now for that, I probably would have gone ahead and given him the day off and a few days bereavement. But hey, that's just me.
 

Debater Slayer

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Sadly, you have all the information I have. I replied but received no response.

Well, I don't see the information that you posted as enough to definitively conclude entitlement, poor work ethic, or irresponsibility. It could be an unfortunate urgency for all I know.

I hope he replies and proves himself a good worker going forward.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
That's part of my statement: if nobody makes minimum wage, is it possible that the minimum wage is just unrealistic per current circumstances and should be changed accordingly?

If someone makes $20/hour while the minimum wage is $15/hour, they would be making minimum wage if it were raised to $20/hour.
Sorry but I don't think raising the minimum wage is going to better the overall conditions we're in. But sure, why not. I mean, let's just pile it all on.
 

Debater Slayer

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Sorry but I don't think raising the minimum wage is going to better the overall conditions we're in. But sure, why not. I mean, let's just pile it all on.

I don't think the current economic problem can be fixed by raising minimum wage either. The suggestion of the possibility to raise it is just to consider that perhaps it's not set at an appropriate level given current circumstances.
 

PureX

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Supply chain increases push pizza pricing up to $30 range | wgrz.com

No way am I buying a average size pizza for 30 dollars.

I remember as a teen, a whole entire pizza with a coke as well, only set me back $3.50.

I can just imagine the cost in the next decade.

Anyone else seeing this?

They are of course, still blaming supply chain issues. Convenient. I don't believe that.
They will keep inching prices up until they can't sell enough pizzas to make a bigger profit. Keep in mind their goal is not to sell the most pizzas. Their goal is to sell as few pizzas as they can for as much money as they possibly can. Because making pizzas costs money. It's money going out. And all they want is the most money coming in and the least money going out. So selling fewer pizzas is fine so long as the price they get for them is high enough to keep the profit margins up.

A lot of stupid Americans think that they live in some magical "free market" economy where the sellers lower their price to compete to sell the most product. But no seller in his right mind cares about selling the most product. What they care about is selling the least product for the highest price possible. Because that means the least money going out, and the most money coming in.

They don't want the buyers to see this, however. Because they might get angry and stop buying their products all together (if they are able). So they use world events as an excuse to keep inching those prices up, and up and up. They blame labor costs, and supply costs, and governmental costs, and whatever else they can think of. But the truth is that they are always seeking to inch those prices up until they find the point where the higher prices begin to cost them money even with the lower production costs. Because that's their maximum profit point; their ideal goal. That's where they can get the most for giving the least.
 
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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't think the current economic problem can be fixed by raising minimum wage either. The suggestion of the possibility to raise it is just to consider that perhaps it's not set at an appropriate level given current circumstances.

Well, it's sort of a moot point. I don't personally see a big push to raise it coming from anyone, since hardly anyone is paid anywhere close to it anyway.

Things are in disarray right now.
 
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