Resurrection of deads

[InvestigateTruth]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

The same question goes for those who have been cremated, or those whose bodies have decayed through normal decomposition...

 

[Nakosis]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

I'd suppose, God, knowing every hair on their head and being omnipotent, could just recreate them from nothing.

 

[Piculet]

It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “There is no part of man that will not disintegrate, apart from a single bone at the base of the coccyx, from which he will be recreated on the Day of Resurrection.”

 

[sun rise]

There is no judgement day. There is no resurrection of the dead. Rather there is an endless cycle of time and reincarnation. So the OP questions don't apply.

 

[Kenny]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

There are two possibilities:

1) The spirit of man with his soul is still a being but not a natural being (like angels)
2) We get a new body:2 Corinthians 5:1

 

[InvestigateTruth]

I'd suppose, God, knowing every hair on their head and being omnipotent, could just recreate them from nothing.

In where recreate them? That is the question. If they had a grave, they say, they just come out of grave. If eaten by animals, there is no grave. So, where they become resurrected?

 

[VoidoftheSun]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

As far as my position within the Abrahamic religions is concerned (being Shia Islam), I believe it all takes place within the world/realm of Alam al-Mithal.
In Baha'i (as you're Baha'i), this would parallel your view of the world of Malakut.

It is the world/realm where spirit is materialized, where matter is spiritualized - in other words.
It is the realm of the subtle body also referred to as the "astral body" in some systems (whether it be Rosicrucianism, Theosophy, or even the New Age).

 

[VoidoftheSun]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

But I do keep the option open in the cards that, seeing how the universe is seen to be destroyed (as per Christianity and Islam), that it could hint at a material existence in a new universe or even reincarnation.

As per ayahs like:

The day We shall roll up the sky, like the rolling of the scrolls for writings. We will bring it back as We began the first creation —a promise [binding] on Us. [That] indeed We will do.

- (Surah 21:104)​

But I do remain skeptical of such an interpretation because it would imply a form of Nihilism to me (bodily existence as per Abrahamic and Dharmic, is merely a vessel for the soul, a means to a greater end, the end logically cannot be physical individuated consciousness)

 

[Vinayaka]

For those who believe in a physical resurrection, which body do you get? Do you get the same one you died in, or do you get the time of life when you were the most healthy? I'm figurin' most people would want their 18 year old body, and their 70 year old mind of wisdom.

 

[VoidoftheSun]

For those who believe in a physical resurrection, which body do you get? Do you get the same one you died in, or do you get the time of life when you were the most healthy? I'm figurin' most people would want their 18 year old body, and their 70 year old mind of wisdom.

While I do consider such a question as that to be incoherent, I do find the philosophical implications of both possible answers to that situation to be darn fascinating.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

As far as my position within the Abrahamic religions is concerned (being Shia Islam), I believe it all takes place within the world/realm of Alam al-Mithal.
In Baha'i (as you're Baha'i), this would parallel your view of the world of Malakut.

It is the world/realm where spirit is materialized, where matter is spiritualized - in other words.
It is the realm of the subtle body also referred to as the "astral body" in some systems (whether it be Rosicrucianism, Theosophy, or even the New Age).

But if we take the verses of Quran about resurrection literally, dont they say resurrection happens on earth on the Judgement Day?

 

[VoidoftheSun]

But if we take the verses of Quran about resurrection literally, dont they say resurrection happens on earth on the Judgement Day?

I've never found anything to hint at that, it always speaks of Yawm Qiyamah in stark contrast to Dunya (the material world).
Plus, Yawm Qiyamah is, in at least a dozen verses, is always concluded with the relation of the destruction of the macrocosm of Dunya to the internalized experience of the Soul (higher nafs).
This makes it very definite (speaking from the Qur'an alone and not the Hadiths which explain this in even more specificity) esoteric nature of what these passages are speaking of.


One such Hadith for instance:

It is narrated from him (narrator of the Hadith above) from Ali ibn al-Hakam from al-Muthanna from abu Basir from abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.) who has said the following:
“Abu Dhar, may Allah grant him favors, has said in his sermons, ‘O you who are found of knowledge (marifa/'ilm), consider worldly things as nothing except what is beneficial in it, and its evil is harmful to people except those to whom God has done favors. O you who are found of knowledge (marifa/'ilm) do not allow your family and property to preoccupy you so you forget all about your soul. One day you will leave them like a mere guest among them does. You then will depart to be with others. Dunya and Akhirah are like two places to move from one to the other. Between death and Qiyamah, it is like a short nap after which you wake up. O you, who are found of knowledge (marifa/'ilm), send forward supplies for yourself before God, the Most Majestic, the Most Holy; you will be rewarded for your knowledge (marifa/'ilm). You shall reap as you sow, O you who are found of knowledge (marifa/'ilm).’”


And a Quranic verse on the nature of justice in judgement within the Yawm Qiyamah, this is God speaking:

"We shall set up the scales of justice on the Day of Resurrection (Yawm al-Qiyamah), and no soul will be wronged in the least. Even if it be the weight of a mustard seed We shall produce it and We suffice as reckoners."

- Holy Qur'an, Surah 21:47​

 

[joelr]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

The wold's leading expert on Zoroastrianism Mary Boyce - Mary Boyce - Wikipedia
who even lived with modern Zoros for one year and then wrote a definitive book on their teachings said this:

"Zoroaster was thus the first to teach the doctrines of an individual judgment, Heaven and Hell, the future resurrection of the body, the general Last Judgment, and life everlasting for the reunited soul and body. These doctrines were to become familiar articles of faith to much of mankind, through borrowings by Judaism, Christianity and Islam."

Christian mythology - Wikipedia

So this is old Persian/Iranian mythology. When the Persians occupied Judea their was a friendly Persian leader Cyrus who encouraged the Jews to continue their religion and was very helpful to their cause. This relationship helped warm them up for adding elements of the Persian belief system into theirs over the next several hundred years.
Some of Mary's book can be read online.
Zoroastrians

The chapter on world savior is interesting because they even had a savior, virgin born who will save the world and all that.

 

[Deeje]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

The grave can be either literal or metaphoric like death itself. When the Bible speaks of death, it can be physical death or spiritual death. One means cut off from life...the other means being cut off from God. Both have the same basic meaning...a dead person ceases to exist.

The grave can be an individual resting place for a dead body, or a figurative receptacle for all the dead...sheol was "the abode of the dead"....a place where all dead people go because that is what a grave is for.....a place for the dead to go to "rest in peace". (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10)

God does not need a single molecule of any person to resurrect them. It is a recreation, or regeneration of one's body and a reinstalling of all memories so that the person can not only self identify but others can also identify them.

Judgment day is not a single event. The final judgment of this world is a single event, but Judgement day is actually "the last day" or the last period of the 1,000 years reign of Christ. Its the one that Lazarus' sister spoke of before Jesus raised her brother. (John ch 11) She knew about "the resurrection on the last day".
When Jesus promised a resurrection to 'both the righteous and the unrighteous', he said that the unrighteous would enter a period of judgment. These are not the incorrigibly wicked (whom Jesus consigned to "gehenna"...."the lake of fire", which is "the second death" ...this is a death from which there is no resurrection. Only God knows who is in this place. They will never come out.) Unrighteous does not mean wicked.

In where recreate them? That is the question. If they had a grave, they say, they just come out of grave. If eaten by animals, there is no grave. So, where they become resurrected?

There are two resurrections spoken about in the Bible....a "first resurrection" for those chosen for rulership positions with Christ in heaven, (Revelation 20:6) and a second 'general' resurrection of the dead after his kingdom is established on earth. Both are performed by Jesus Christ. (John 5:28-29) So whether he calls the dead from literal graves or figurative ones, the result is the same......but the destinations for both are different. Those resurrected "first" are given a new spiritual body in order to join Christ in heaven, and those resurrected as their subjects on earth are given new physical bodies, so as to resume life and relationships here on earth.

When Jesus performed resurrections back in the first century, his delight was to be able to return these ones to their families. We can just imagine the joy when families separated by death are reunited.....to everlasting life on earth....which is what God purposed in the beginning....

 

[URAVIP2ME]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:
Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

First of all, I find ' Judgement Day ' is Jesus' Millennium-Long Day of governing over Earth for a thousand years.
The deep blue sea is the grave for some. No physical remains needed for a person to be resurrected, just to be in God's memory.
Most people will have a happy-and-healthy physical resurrection back to live life on Earth.
ALL the resurrections Jesus performed where physical resurrections back to life on Earth.
The people who died before Jesus ( John 3:13 ) were Not offered heaven.
Heaven was offered by Jesus for people like those of Luke 22:28-30; Revelation 2:10.
Only the wicked will be 'destroyed forever' - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 145:20.
This is why 2 Peter 3:9 says to ' repent ' if we don't want to ' perish ' ( be destroyed ) .

There is also a coming ' Judgement Day ' for the living according to Matthew 25:31-33,37,40.
The figurative humble ' sheep ' have a favorable judgement and they can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth to see calendar Day One of Jesus' millennial reign over Earth and offered everlasting life on Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.
Under Christ's reign, even ' enemy death ' will then be No more on Earth as per 1 Corinthians 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8

 

[Deeje]

The chapter on world savior is interesting because they even had a savior, virgin born who will save the world and all that.

The devil knows scripture too.....

Everything God does, satan mimics......there are not many gods in the world...they are all him under different names in different cultures. He has always played on the human need to worship, but in these secular times he plays on the human need for God to disappear. Instead of being slaves to false gods...they become slaves to their own wants and needs. God's rules don't apply. That is, after all what led him astray in the first place.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

In where recreate them? That is the question. If they had a grave, they say, they just come out of grave. If eaten by animals, there is no grave. So, where they become resurrected?

There are also No remains for the people who died because of atomic bombs hitting them.
What is important is that the person is in God's memory.
ALL the resurrections before God resurrected Jesus to spirit life were all healthy physical resurrections.
Jesus will fulfill God's promise to father Abraham that ALL families of Earth will be blessed and ALL nations of Earth will be blessed.-Genesis 12:3; Genesis 22:18
Blessed with the benefit of ' healing ' as per Revelation 22:2. No one will say, " I am sick ......" - Isaiah 33:24; Earth and its people will be as described at Isaiah 35th chapter.
Under Christ's 1000-year governmental rule over Earth even ' enemy death ' will then be No more - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8

 

[Hockeycowboy]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

Reason on it, this way.....since the God of the Bible promises this (Revelation 20:13-14), and also promises a pain-free future for “mankind” @ Revelation 21:3-4, what does that say about Him? To me, it tells me that He — Jehovah is his name — is loving.

What would a reasonable loving Father do in that situation? It seems to me, that that resurrected person would be brought back to life around his loving family; or if they weren’t loving, at least around other people who cared for him.

Can you imagine the joyful reunions?!

Millions of reunited families and relationships!

And just think of this....Jesus said that “even the hairs of your head are all numbered.” But, in addition to that, for those people to be reunited, Jehovah God will have to resurrect people with their memories recreated!!!

Now, that means Jehovah is taking a personal interest in each one of us!

 

[Aupmanyav]

If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:
Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?

Thankfully, my religion does not teach me any such silly thing. My religion tells me that there is no birth and no death. Basically, nothing can die. When I come to that point (the so-called death), my body is cremated (not eaten by a lion or a shark, I am a city-dweller), and the products (Water vapor and Carbon-di-oxide) disperse in the atmosphere. What remains is Calcium oxide from the bones. This my people will immerse in a river. So all the atoms will begin on a new journey in millions of forms.
No God, no soul, no heaven, no hell, no judgment. Is that not true? Do you believe otherwise? Would you be able to show some evidence for what you believe?