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Resurrection of deads

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
I've never found anything to hint at that, it always speaks of Yawm Qiyamah in stark contrast to Dunya (the material world).
Plus, Yawm Qiyamah is, in at least a dozen verses, is always concluded with the relation of the destruction of the macrocosm of Dunya to the internalized experience of the Soul (higher nafs).
This makes it very definite (speaking from the Qur'an alone and not the Hadiths which explain this in even more specificity) esoteric nature of what these passages are speaking of.


One such Hadith for instance:

It is narrated from him (narrator of the Hadith above) from Ali ibn al-Hakam from al-Muthanna from abu Basir from abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.) who has said the following:
“Abu Dhar, may Allah grant him favors, has said in his sermons, ‘O you who are found of knowledge (marifa/'ilm), consider worldly things as nothing except what is beneficial in it, and its evil is harmful to people except those to whom God has done favors. O you who are found of knowledge (marifa/'ilm) do not allow your family and property to preoccupy you so you forget all about your soul. One day you will leave them like a mere guest among them does. You then will depart to be with others. Dunya and Akhirah are like two places to move from one to the other. Between death and Qiyamah, it is like a short nap after which you wake up. O you, who are found of knowledge (marifa/'ilm), send forward supplies for yourself before God, the Most Majestic, the Most Holy; you will be rewarded for your knowledge (marifa/'ilm). You shall reap as you sow, O you who are found of knowledge (marifa/'ilm).’


And a Quranic verse on the nature of justice in judgement within the Yawm Qiyamah, this is God speaking:

"We shall set up the scales of justice on the Day of Resurrection (Yawm al-Qiyamah), and no soul will be wronged in the least. Even if it be the weight of a mustard seed We shall produce it and We suffice as reckoners."
- Holy Qur'an, Surah 21:47
Where does the Judgement Day happen? I mean, it seems in the Quran there is a Day, humanity meets with the Lord, and then judgement is given, some are determined as inhabitants of heaven and some inhabitants of hell. So, if we take verses of Quran literally, on that Day, there will be many earthquakes, the mountains move,...so, apparently the event, or hour occurs on the earth.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
If your religion teaches resurrection of the dead on the Judgement Day, and you believe all dead people will be resurrected, here is a case:

Suppose somebody was eaten by a shark in the sea. The man's body absorbed by shark, and later once the shark dies, its body eaten by other fishes, and some of those fishes were eaten by some fishers.
On the Judegme Day, this man has no specific grave. So, where does he come out? Where does he get resurrected?
we all die

I suspect....the resurrection is immediate
right after the last breath

it's a spiritual change

so it is written
Do not conform to this world
Be transformed by it
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
I think a very important point is being made here. If they are not in their graves either cremated or eaten by a shark then it’s impossible for the prophecy to be literally fulfilled where there is no grave. So the meaning therefore could not be literal so another meaning perhaps allegorical is more pertinent.

For all we know the Day of Resurrection is now and people are being raised to a new spiritual life. There is definitely a new spirit stirring in this age compared to centuries past.

Although clearly some wish to return to the graves of racism and terrorism, the vast majority want peace and reconciliation even with Mother Nature and indigenous races. There are also great movements arising promoting the status of women and so humanity is rising out its grave of ignorance and becoming alive with knowledge and enlightenment.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Jesus was a great Master, that is different. I read about Yogananda that after He died, his body did not decay for a few weeks (and that was in USA).
(and the body was not frozen:D). There are more stories about great Yogis leaving temporary their body, and then return. That could have been the case with Jesus (but that is just a thought I had right now). We will never know for sure what happened 2000 years ago.

But I do not believe human bodies will ever be resurrected en masse somewhere in the future.

I can understand that people like this idea, because they are attached to family/friends, and they hope to see them again. The good thing about this concept is that when they die, they believe they meet each other again, so they might die more peaceful.

Well, be a little weird at first being brought back to life and not recognizing yourself. Heaven may need to put some psychologists to work. :D
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Well, be a little weird at first being brought back to life and not recognizing yourself. Heaven may need to put some psychologists to work. :D
That has always been my point in regards to reincarnation.

I do not remember in this life my previous life
So, I need not be concerned about my next life
Because in my next life I will not remember this life

And when I do not remember a previous life
Then it is as if it is not my own life

No need to aim for heaven after death
Better aim for heaven before death
 

ajarntham

Member
In where recreate them? That is the question. If they had a grave, they say, they just come out of grave. If eaten by animals, there is no grave. So, where they become resurrected?

Whether this would count as a "recreation/resurrection" or simply a creation of a new person who had the appearance and memories of the old one, depends on whether you think people are defined by their form or their content. If we are defined by our form, there would seem no obstacle to thinking "the new body, even if constituted of new atoms created on the spot by God, is the resurrection of the old one." If we are defined by our content, then no.

A similar argument is often brought up, among us Star Trek nerds, about whether the fabulous "transporter" beams a person down to or up from a planet, or whether it vaporizes one person and creates another who is apparently identical. ;)
 
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