technomage
Finding my own way
C'mon, St. Frank. You KNOW you luv da CHOCOLATE!
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Retailers Pushing Christian Holidays
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FunctionalAtheist
Hammer of Reason
It doesn't bother me so much. I recognize it as commercialism. What does irritate me at times are businesses that promote themselves as christian. Ok a christian book store that sells books about christianity is one thing. But a christian gym, christian super-market, etc. that does nothing of a religious nature? They are practicing exclusivism.
So anyway, I have just completed the deal for the manufacturing of a christmas toy that will be on the market this year. Is is a Jesus doll with a shiny gold tooth smiling and pointing his finger at you in a guns up pose. When you pull the string he says "What would I do?"
Why should christians be the only ones that take money from christians? I'm also working on a moses doll. I had an idea for a noah doll complete with arc, but the two of every kind was cost prohibitive.
So anyway, I have just completed the deal for the manufacturing of a christmas toy that will be on the market this year. Is is a Jesus doll with a shiny gold tooth smiling and pointing his finger at you in a guns up pose. When you pull the string he says "What would I do?"
Why should christians be the only ones that take money from christians? I'm also working on a moses doll. I had an idea for a noah doll complete with arc, but the two of every kind was cost prohibitive.
I can't say I've ever seen Christian gyms or Christian supermarkets. Then again, I have also spent relatively little time in the deep south of the United States, where I'd venture such things exist. >_>;
FunctionalAtheist
Hammer of Reason
Not even the deep south. Texas!
technomage
Finding my own way
It's not so much specifically Christian business places. It's the little "Fish" stickers, the sign outside that days "Jesus is Lord" right above where it says "Ammo 50% Off" (that one's right down the street from me), or the pictures of Jesus on the cash register.
No big deal, really. I'm a long-haired hippie-looking dude, and they still take my money just fine.
Poeticus
| abhyAvartin |
I love Christmas! Depending on where one lives...
but, add this holiday with snow, chocolates, hot cocoa,
gift giving (and receiving
), family get-togethers, days
off from school and work, movie-specials and discounts...
an endless list of awesomeness. And, celebrations of Lord
Ganesha during this time [and, I could care less that it was
just recently created] is a big plus! Yay!
but, add this holiday with snow, chocolates, hot cocoa,
gift giving (and receiving
), family get-togethers, daysoff from school and work, movie-specials and discounts...
an endless list of awesomeness. And, celebrations of Lord
Ganesha during this time [and, I could care less that it was
just recently created] is a big plus! Yay!
FunctionalAtheist
Hammer of Reason
Why would you expect retailer not to do things to extract money fro customers?
For example, businesses, whether they support homosexuals or not, do things to cater to the homosexual community because, Dual Income No Kids, married homosexual couples have a LOT of discretionary spending power ... and businesses want a piece of that.
As the majority of Americans are religious of some sort or another, it makes perfect sense that:
A. retailers would field products that cater to the demand for things that help celebrate the holiday ... like liquor.
B. retailers would present an environment that was an open to these religious people with money, because if they needless offend them ... guess where said religious people will spend their money?
There are things that cater to atheists as well? Like Darwin bumper stickers. Did you atheists make them all individually by yourself? Or did someone figure out that atheists might want some of these things and they turned a quick buck? I'd bet not everyone in the design, manufacture, and sale of these Darwin bumper stickers was an avowed atheist too boot.
Take chic filet for instance. Its overtly Christian, and this attracts Christian customers. Yet chic filet is not overtly hostile to atheists. You walk in and its just another restaurant. Atheists eat at chic filet ... really. They do ... honest.
Its business, nothing more. Tapping into 'Christian' view to sell chicken is hardly revolutionary. Its about making money.
And it should come as no surprise to anyone that businessmen interested in making a some money OFF OF YOU, are finding way to make that happen ... even it means buttering you up without the slightest shred of concern for you ideology in the slightest.
They just want the money. Its just good business. Nothing more.
For example, businesses, whether they support homosexuals or not, do things to cater to the homosexual community because, Dual Income No Kids, married homosexual couples have a LOT of discretionary spending power ... and businesses want a piece of that.
As the majority of Americans are religious of some sort or another, it makes perfect sense that:
A. retailers would field products that cater to the demand for things that help celebrate the holiday ... like liquor.
B. retailers would present an environment that was an open to these religious people with money, because if they needless offend them ... guess where said religious people will spend their money?
There are things that cater to atheists as well? Like Darwin bumper stickers. Did you atheists make them all individually by yourself? Or did someone figure out that atheists might want some of these things and they turned a quick buck? I'd bet not everyone in the design, manufacture, and sale of these Darwin bumper stickers was an avowed atheist too boot.
Take chic filet for instance. Its overtly Christian, and this attracts Christian customers. Yet chic filet is not overtly hostile to atheists. You walk in and its just another restaurant. Atheists eat at chic filet ... really. They do ... honest.
Its business, nothing more. Tapping into 'Christian' view to sell chicken is hardly revolutionary. Its about making money.
And it should come as no surprise to anyone that businessmen interested in making a some money OFF OF YOU, are finding way to make that happen ... even it means buttering you up without the slightest shred of concern for you ideology in the slightest.
They just want the money. Its just good business. Nothing more.
FunctionalAtheist
Hammer of Reason
I'm not so sure it is the best business in many of these cases. Yes I agree with you for the most part. But there is a difference between marketing an item aimed at christians, and selling your non-religious business as a business christians should do business with. I know they lose my money. Anyway as long as they are not denying service to certain people that's their business.
I guess saying "we do fair business with good christians" just makes me wonder why they have to point that out? I want to do business with people that do fair business PERIOD!
If they lose money ... they would stop doing it.
Any I have yet to see a retailer deny business to someone simply by selling Christian products. Or Kawaza products. Or Hanukah products.
Indeed, the denial of service and needless offense to some people is indeed undermining business.
And the homosexual community, for example, has realized this and employed it with marked success.
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Again, business is about making money, and when they do something that starts to cost money ... they go bankrupt.
Most businesses try to avoid that, and the extent of there concern about your ideology is to acknowledge that you have one ... so they can market to you and get your money.
Case in point, and again I apologize about the references to homosexuality, its not meant to denigrate, but in these times its an obvious and easily observed change.
That case ... as I return from my digression, is in many of the hotels I have stayed in recently. They are offering 'packages' and 'services' specifically to the homosexual couples and community. These same services can be purchased by heterosexuals and even single people as well.
The marketing is merely an acknowledgement of ideology (That being that the homosexual community is out and has money to spent and be catered too), and means of drawing business away from a competitor who simply offers the services to all.
It literally: We have great service! against We have great packages for homosexual couples whom we are proud to serve, and we have great service for everyone else too boot!
We humans are ego driven creatures, and businesses understand both that we are and that we don't want to acknowledge that little reality.
There's a place here that teaches "Christian" martial arts. They call it "YESHUA'S RYU" Karate.
:yes:
Mortose
Dark Adept
Go do business with them. If they cheat you, use their Bible against them and start a media campaign to put them out of business. No, in all seriousness...
Those Christians are enjoying the golden calf called capitalism. Why be concerned? If you dislike their businesses, do not enter them. The best type of attention to your enemies is to ignore them. Writing in this thread just made their silly little business more popular, right? Any publicity is good publicity? Maybe not always but often.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
The general public is Christian and/or celebrates Christian holidays, such as Easter and Christmas.
Advertising and marketing are from Satan, there's no doubt about that.
The art of getting people to spend money on stuff they don't need.
Tom
It's not so much specifically Christian business places. It's the little "Fish" stickers, the sign outside that days "Jesus is Lord" right above where it says "Ammo 50% Off" (that one's right down the street from me), or the pictures of Jesus on the cash register.
Something the character Shepherd Book said in an episode of Firefly... "The bible has plenty to say about killing, but nothing about kneecaps" as he armed himself against ship intruders.
Nonsense! Quit using logic and ruining my righteous ramblings!
(besides, only about 78% of the "general public" in the United States identify as Christian... the rest of us 22% are still part of the "general public" you know and that's not what I would call an insignificant figure, particularly since it is trending upwards. But maybe that's just me.
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Even when I wasn't a Christian, I bought and devoured Chocolate bunnies and Peeps. Those retailers know exactly what they are doing.
I think it hardly has anything to do with religion, merely that there seems to be a large Christian population effecting the market.
Why two months early? I think it has something to do with one of these things;
1. People traveling and celebrating elsewhere.
2. Advertising and preparation.
3. The lowering of price.
4. A ready stock, if it were all delivered and sold at once, it'd take too long. Remember that these are popular traditions, some people get really into it.
Why two months early? I think it has something to do with one of these things;
1. People traveling and celebrating elsewhere.
2. Advertising and preparation.
3. The lowering of price.
4. A ready stock, if it were all delivered and sold at once, it'd take too long. Remember that these are popular traditions, some people get really into it.