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Rethinking gun ownership...

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm also considering getting one. I won't even have it on me all the time, but I was already considering getting one before the bigots of America became empowered and emboldened.
New I'm never owning a gun. Not nearly paranoid enough, or perhaps too secure in my own masculinity, I suppose.
You don't have to be paranoid or insecure to own a gun. Myself, I have a shotgun, but, then again, I am a country gal, and out here I do believe it would be accurate to say most people own at least one gun, and throughout late winter/early spring through late fall/early winter you'll occasionally hear a "bang" echoing through the air.
 
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ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Have never owned a gun with the purpose of turning on a human with it. Just sick or injured animals. Plan to keep it that way.
Fear leads to anger, etc.
 

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
I'm also considering getting one. I won't even have it on me all the time, but I was already considering getting one before the bigots of America became empowered and emboldened.

You don't have to be paranoid or insecure to own a gun. Myself, I have a shotgun, but, then again, I am a country gal, and out here I do believe it would be accurate to say most people own at least one gun, and throughout late winter/early spring through late fall/early winter you'll occasionally hear a "bang" echoing through the air.

Right, but the OP and the thread is about owning a handgun and carrying it around with you at all times because DANGER.

What you're describing is recreational and different. I'm just a Texas city boy, and most of my shooting is with a bow and arrow. . . Playing Skyrim.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Right, but the OP and the thread is about owning a handgun and carrying it around with you at all times because DANGER.
That's pretty much why I'm considering getting one. Being transgender and stuck in a Conservative **** hole for the time being, I'm not taking chances. And Pete did specifically state he wouldn't be carrying it around all the time. I won't either, but there are definitely times I definitely will (such as if I have the chance to sub any paper routes again).
What you're describing is recreational and different.
Recreation, hunting, and defense.
most of my shooting is with a bow and arrow. . . Playing Skyrim.
That's not shooting.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
I have given myself over to learning gun safety and handling. Many, many years ago I was the organizer of a Boy Scout Safety Weekend, where we taught Life Guarding, First Aid/CPR, Wilderness First Aid, BLS and a gun safety course. I might be missing one or two of the offerings. Anyway, quite often I helped the NRA guys set up and if I wasn't teaching a class, I would go over and help them out since their classes were always packed. I was tasked with range safety usually overseeing and mentoring two shooters at a time. I'm not completely ignorant, but I'm not going to claim to be an expert either. I know I have a lot to learn and am now plotting how to attain the competence I will feel necessary to handle a pistol safely and proficiently. I do strongly believe in training, practice and training.

First, I'll be reading. I chose the 1911 A1 due to it's combat history. If the design was so poor, then why have more than a dozen companies choose to make a version of it? Yesterday, I shot a half dozen different pistols, mostly 9mm and .45 with one 38 special. I had looked at the Springfield Mil Spec earlier and was impressed with it's price and condition for a used weapon. I was even more impressed with how it fit in my hand and how it wasn't really all that heavy due to its balance. They allowed me to fire it, and my first shot was through the "X" at about 15 yds.

I have spent a good bit of time reading last night and this morning only to find that I probably picked one of the best examples of the 1911 A1 pistols out there. Kewl. I'll be leaving in a few minutes to take the concealed weapons class. I believe there will be some safety in the class, but I'm hoping this centers more on the laws about gun carry. That's what I'm most ignorant of. Terms like "open carry" and "concealed carry" seem deceptively easy to comprehend. I want to know the caveats. Not only for me, but for others who might be carrying around me.

Yes, I'll also be reaching out to my NRA buddies back in Orlando. A couple are trainers for the local PD and I want to take a few of their classes. No, I won't be joining the NRA as I find them to morally bankrupt in regards to promoting gun safety but not control. I also have reached out to a friend who's a gun smith in Orlando to teach me more about this pistol. Sure, I'll be spending hours at the gun range learning to shoot and some of that will be with a coach as well. If you're going to learn something: go all out.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That's what I'm most ignorant of.
The crappy thing, there are many laws to stay on top of in order to make sure you are legal anywhere you go. If you ask me, we need blanket Federal laws to streamline state and municipal laws to avoid the reality of some legal and responsible gun owners suddenly becoming illegal because they crossed a border and didn't think to check the laws first before crossing that border.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
If you ask me, we need blanket Federal laws to streamline state and municipal laws
Agreed... the State of Florida does not allow gun laws below the state level for this very reason.

The class was almost all about the law. There was a tiny bit of safety... ten cardinal safety rules like don't look down the barrel and so forth. The topics covered were things like when you could carry with a CWP and when without. What areas were completely off limits, the difference between the rights of a business to refuse all guns and the rights of the gun owner to choose another place. We covered the definition of deadly force and how it jived with castle law and stand your ground. We ran through several scenarios and I found them both emotionally and ethically challenging. The decision to take a life, even in defense of your own, is huge.

I really liked the class and took time after it to squeeze off 60 rounds.My aim really improved over night as I thought it might. I'm no marksman, but to improve was nice. At one point one of the sales people commented that I was doing really well. So I asked if she had ever told anyone that they sucked? Yeah, that was a big negative. :D
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
After watching the riots in Portland and California as well as the footage I saw tonight of the gang of low life pond scum beating the hell out of an innocent man while shouting "dont vote TRUMP", I would say its a good time to get that concealed carry permit.
If California even lets you first. Hell in New York it's illegal to even carry a can of mace without a permit.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I'm never owning a gun. Not nearly paranoid enough, or perhaps too secure in my own masculinity, I suppose.

Somehow, against all odds, managed survive in this hostile apocalypse without one.

I'd sooner carry a giant umbrella around. You never know when the sky is gonna fall. . . .
in my state, the penal code has a lengthy list of items not allowed for carry

basically, if you use it as a weapon..... it is on the list
(even phasers are prohibited)

and the charge for the use of a weapon is pretty much the same
gun or not
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Update: It's been an interesting month. Not only have I learned to shoot my Springfield Armory 1911 1A 45ACP, I've also done a number of modifications to it. I installed a Beaver Tail safety, New Hammer, Trigger, Main Spring Housing, Sear, Recoil Spring and an extractor. My pistol had a huge flaw in that the casings would pop out correctly and got jammed in the gun instead. I had lots of fun figuring this out and then resolving it before I put in all the new parts. I have more parts in the pistol than I spent on the pistol. Kind of whack, eh? I even diagnosed and fixed another's pistol on the range a couple of days ago. I don't feel like such a noob at this point.

In addition, I joined a fancy gun club: the Key Largo Shooters Club and have key access to a range. Woot! I'm also heading out in a few minutes to pick up my first rifle. I've chosen an AR-10 .308 with a 18" SS fluted barrel. I also bought a red dot with magnifier and a few other accessories. This is my Christmas gift to me. This has been incredibly fun and rewarding.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Update: It's been an interesting month. Not only have I learned to shoot my Springfield Armory 1911 1A 45ACP, I've also done a number of modifications to it. I installed a Beaver Tail safety, New Hammer, Trigger, Main Spring Housing, Sear, Recoil Spring and an extractor. My pistol had a huge flaw in that the casings would pop out correctly and got jammed in the gun instead. I had lots of fun figuring this out and then resolving it before I put in all the new parts. I have more parts in the pistol than I spent on the pistol. Kind of whack, eh? I even diagnosed and fixed another's pistol on the range a couple of days ago. I don't feel like such a noob at this point.

In addition, I joined a fancy gun club: the Key Largo Shooters Club and have key access to a range. Woot! I'm also heading out in a few minutes to pick up my first rifle. I've chosen an AR-10 .308 with a 18" SS fluted barrel. I also bought a red dot with magnifier and a few other accessories. This is my Christmas gift to me. This has been incredibly fun and rewarding.
you must have money to burn.......enjoy!
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Maybe you could moonlight as a gunsmith when you're not underwater.
Maybe fix spear guns as a sideline.
 

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
I'm glad you're enjoying it, and I hope you still don't feel the original fears that led you to that purchase to begin with.

Have fun!
 

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
I'm in favor of gun ownership.
But your reasons are dubious.
Guns do not solve problems related to disagreements.
Use civility for that.
Rethink your needs.
And your choice for a first gun is poor.
Don't be more dangerous than the people you imagine might come after you.
But if you do carry one, get more training than some concealed carry course.
This is very serious business.
I don't trust myself with a gun. Once the trigger is pulled, you have to accept the consequences.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't trust myself with a gun. Once the trigger is pulled, you have to accept the consequences.
If you ever change your mind, I recommend starting out with a small caliber rifle....22 LR.
Big calibers are a mistake for novices....
- Increased risk of developing a flinch
- More expensive to practice
Rifles are better....
- Safer
- Easier to learn basics, eg, sight picture, breath control
 

Onyx

Active Member
Premium Member
If you ever change your mind, I recommend starting out with a small caliber....22 LR.
Big calibers are a mistake for novices....
- Increased risk of developing a flinch
- More expensive to practice
Thank you, but I think I'm gonna stick with Airsoft for now.
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