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Returning for a bit

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
I'm not sure how long I'll stick around this time, but let me give you all updates on how I've been doing.

I think I announced that I'd gotten married last time I was on here. I still am, and we're doing great. He and I are going two years strong of living together.

I'm still an atheist too, so I suppose it can be said I found where I belong. I have no doubts whatsoever about my position. I've taken an interest in philosophy to supplement my worldview.

You who know me know of my Buddhist leanings, but I've also drawn from Epicurus, and really enjoy his philosophy. I would definitely place myself within humanism.

I'm also joining a Unitarian Universalist congregation this year. I've been going to a UU church over a year now, and I'm ready to join because I think the work that the church believes in and their vision of a more unified humanity is important.

Well that's all for now, and I'm gonna jump back in the debates.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure how long I'll stick around this time, but let me give you all updates on how I've been doing.

I think I announced that I'd gotten married last time I was on here. I still am, and we're doing great. He and I are going two years strong of living together.

I'm still an atheist too, so I suppose it can be said I found where I belong. I have no doubts whatsoever about my position. I've taken an interest in philosophy to supplement my worldview.

You who know me know of my Buddhist leanings, but I've also drawn from Epicurus, and really enjoy his philosophy. I would definitely place myself within humanism.

I'm also joining a Unitarian Universalist congregation this year. I've been going to a UU church over a year now, and I'm ready to join because I think the work that the church believes in and their vision of a more unified humanity is important.

Well that's all for now, and I'm gonna jump back in the debates.
Yin and yang = balance
Nature is yin + yang = balance good and evil
Nature provides the evil , human interventions created more like cancers .
What God created was balanced until you add humans , is humans that tip the scales in either direction .
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Yin and yang = balance
Nature is yin + yang = balance good and evil
Nature provides the evil , human interventions created more like cancers .
What God created was balanced until you add humans , is humans that tip the scales in either direction .

I don't really believe in the concept of Yin and Yang as the Chinese traditionally believe it. My avatar is a Yin Yang symbol because its also traditionally used in Zen/Chan Buddhism.

As for what God created, and humans add>>> I don't know what a god is.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Re-greetings!

Sit a spell, & make yourself a sammich....
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Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
Yin and yang = balance
Nature is yin + yang = balance good and evil
Nature provides the evil , human interventions created more like cancers .
What God created was balanced until you add humans , is humans that tip the scales in either direction .
From my knowledge of Taoism, Yin isn't evil and Yang isn't good. They're just opposing forces that compliment each other and can't exist without the other.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Welcome Back Rainbow Mage. I'm sure this place is just as crazy if not worse than when you left it. :D
 

Corthos

Great Old One
Ushta, and welcome back! =)

You know, there is a UU church near my girlfriend's place. I've thought of stepping in and seeing what it's about.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
From my knowledge of Taoism, Yin isn't evil and Yang isn't good. They're just opposing forces that compliment each other and can't exist without the other.
Was in my explanation as push is to pull opposing forces
Good and Evil are opposing forces ,is one of millions of applications was a single example .
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Was in my explanation as push is to pull opposing forces
Good and Evil are opposing forces ,is one of millions of applications was a single example .

Good and Evil are subjective, man-made concepts. Yin-Yang is just opposing forces that hold us centered (and I believe the proper name for that mandala is taijitu).
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
I don't really believe in the concept of Yin and Yang as the Chinese traditionally believe it. My avatar is a Yin Yang symbol because its also traditionally used in Zen/Chan Buddhism.

As for what God created, and humans add>>> I don't know what a god is.
A God , you think is more than one ? I know is lots of languages on the planet but to suggest plagarism lol .
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Good and Evil are subjective, man-made concepts. Yin-Yang is just opposing forces that hold us centered (and I believe the proper name for that mandala is taijitu).
So you do not know difference of giving someone a cupcake or pushing a pencil in thier eye , OK thanks for reply
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
So you do not know difference of giving someone a cupcake or pushing a pencil in thier eye , OK thanks for reply

If the cupcake sends their blood sugar skyward while the pencil relives a life threatening pressure build up, well I guess you have to decide what's good and what's not.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
A God , you think is more than one ? I know is lots of languages on the planet but to suggest plagarism lol .

I mean I don't know what the term 'god' means, because I have yet to encounter a god concept that didn't seem entirely human, or based on other aspects of materialistic reality. A good analogy I often use is- if we speak of a table, we know what a table is, and what its properties and uses are. That makes a table a table, and we can verify all of that. When it comes to god people always say god is like a king, judge, etc>>>but what IS a god attribute? What is a property or attribute that can be called godly, and verified by evidence?

I don't know what a god is.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
I mean I don't know what the term 'god' means, because I have yet to encounter a god concept that didn't seem entirely human, or based on other aspects of materialistic reality. A good analogy I often use is- if we speak of a table, we know what a table is, and what its properties and uses are. That makes a table a table, and we can verify all of that. When it comes to god people always say god is like a king, judge, etc>>>but what IS a god attribute? What is a property or attribute that can be called godly, and verified by evidence?

I don't know what a god is.
Yes objectively "God" is impossible to describe .
A property of God for myself is the whole
An attribute I'd suggest indifference , not biased any way obviously something a human cannot be ? kind of by default even if only slightly.
Given a forced choice of one , I'd save a family member over a stranger , tough choice my own bias would choose my family .
A God who could fairly judge should that be the case would need indifference , also suggests without indifference god might be forced to intervene ?
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
If god is objectively impossible to describe, why set out to describe it at all? That's why I find Deism to at least be respectable.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
If god is objectively impossible to describe, why set out to describe it at all? That's why I find Deism to at least be respectable.
If I could go back many thousands of years I would ask the same question , reality is we live in objective world where some 90 % believe in God of one form or another.
 
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