Revelation

[Jimmy]

I believe the book of revelation is nothing more than a mere collection of events that would’ve taken place providing God allows us that time to exist. In my view the world will end before any of that happens and it will come like a thief in the night. No one will see it coming. It’s a good revelation. A revelation of hope.

 

[Ebionite]

No one will see it coming.

The question of who sees it coming is addressed by the watchman. Habakkuk describes a watchman who learns of a proud man.

 

[Jimmy]

The question of who sees it coming is addressed by the watchman. Habakkuk describes a watchman who learns of a proud man.

No one will see it

 

[Ebionite]

No one will see it

The proud man argued for things that were provably false.

 

[cataway]

I believe the book of revelation is nothing more than a mere collection of events that would’ve taken place providing God allows us that time to exist. In my view the world will end before any of that happens and it will come like a thief in the night. No one will see it coming. It’s a good revelation. A revelation of hope.

thing i like about the book of revelation . you dont have a clue about whats happening

 

[Heyo]

I believe the book of revelation is nothing more than a mere collection of events that would’ve taken place providing God allows us that time to exist. In my view the world will end before any of that happens and it will come like a thief in the night. No one will see it coming. It’s a good revelation. A revelation of hope.

I believe the book of revelation is nothing more than a bad trip, possibly induced by ergot poisoning.

 

[cataway]

I believe the book of revelation is nothing more than a bad trip, possibly induced by ergot poisoning.

Rev 1
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show unto his servants, even the things which must shortly come to pass: and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John;

maybe you don't know what ''signified '' means ? very little of the book is to be taken literally . you have joined the anti-christ . with that you should expect to be culled out . its not like separating sheep from goats . its more like separating good apples from bad apples . bad apples go in the trash get buried and forgotten . if you want to know what's happening in the book revelation ,arrangements can be made .

 

[Dave Watchman]

I believe the book of revelation is nothing more than a mere collection of events that would’ve taken place providing God allows us that time to exist.

I believe the book of Revelation is a collection of events that have taken place, and are taking place, within the appointed time God has provided for them to take place.

In my view the world will end before any of that happens and it will come like a thief in the night.

In my view the world can't end before the prophetic time periods mentioned in that book are completed.

No one will see it coming.

I see it coming.

It’s a good revelation.

It is.

A revelation of hope.

Of things which must shortly come to pass.

I wish more would see it coming to pass.

Maybe they will login and speak.

I shall subscribe.

 

[cataway]

I believe the book of revelation is nothing more than a mere collection of events that would’ve taken place providing God allows us that time to exist. In my view the world will end before any of that happens and it will come like a thief in the night. No one will see it coming. It’s a good revelation. A revelation of hope.

what does the ''world will end'' mean ? its not found in the bible . does say the opposite of that

 

[Jimmy]

what does the ''world will end'' mean ? its not found in the bible . does say the opposite of that

Read my profile post. That will explain it

 

[GoodAttention]

what does the ''world will end'' mean ? its not found in the bible . does say the opposite of that

Jesus says heaven and earth will pass away, and then reaffirms this by saying his words will always be true.

The end is also the beginning of everlasting life.

 

[cataway]

Jesus says heaven and earth will pass away, and then reaffirms this by saying his words will always be true.

The end is also the beginning of everlasting life.

no Jesus was using a Hyperbole, its the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. he was in fact stating how true his words are. he will not fail

 

[cataway]

Read my profile post. That will explain it

ya did that .you clearly don't know what you are talking about , go back and read post #7

 

[GoodAttention]

no Jesus was using a Hyperbole, its the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. he was in fact stating how true his words are. he will not fail

Jesus exists with the Father before the heavens and the earth were created. Hence his words are timeless. It would therefore be sensical for the heavens and earth to pass away before his words do.

I have no issues with hyperbole as long as it doesn't make Jesus or his message self-depricating.

 

[Ebionite]

Jesus says heaven and earth will pass away, and then reaffirms this by saying his words will always be true.

Ezekiel has a description of the temple/city of the new earth toward the end of the book.

 

[cataway]

Can you give any other examples of hyperbole in the Gospel of Mark?

why narrow it down to Mark ? here' one ““Why . . . do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye but do not notice the rafter in your own eye?” yep that's a good one.
Another is when he said: “Not even a hair of your heads will perish.” (Lu 21:18) He was obviously not saying that every hair of each of his disciples would be preserved. but meaning that his followers would be protected despite being “hated .''

carry on

 

[GoodAttention]

why narrow it down to Mark ? here' one ““Why . . . do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye but do not notice the rafter in your own eye?” yep that's a good one.
Another is when he said: “Not even a hair of your heads will perish.” (Lu 21:18) He was obviously not saying that every hair of each of his disciples would be preserved. but meaning that his followers would be protected despite being “hated .''

carry on

The first one isn't a hyperbole.

The second one, sure, but we are taking the literal meaning in the positive sense, "not even a hair on your heads will perish" as true.
Equally, the "heavens and earths will pass away" is also true, because Jesus word is timeless.

 

[cataway]

ah but you do admit hyperbole's were used by Jesus

 

[Madsaac]

I believe the book of revelation is nothing more than a mere collection of events that would’ve taken place providing God allows us that time to exist. In my view the world will end before any of that happens and it will come like a thief in the night. No one will see it coming. It’s a good revelation. A revelation of hope.

I'm asking this question out of curiosity and to help understand how people, like yourself put so much credence in a book written 2000 years a go by a bunch of blokes in a 'far off land'. When you consider there have been hundreds of texts written with similar ideals, why is this book, placed on such a pedestal?

And do you think there is a very strong chance the book was written for other reasons apart from someone called Jesus.

Just interested in the mindset of a 'believer' thanks

 

[Jimmy]

I'm asking this question out of curiosity and to help understand how people, like yourself put so much credence in a book written 2000 years a go by a bunch of blokes in a 'far off land'. When you consider there have been hundreds of texts written with similar ideals, why is this book, placed on such a pedestal?

And do you think there is a very strong chance the book was written for other reasons apart from someone called Jesus.

Just interested in the mindset of a 'believer' thanks

I think it’s a decent spiritual story. It’s got a good story about God, his son, treating people kind, hope for an afterlife with your loved ones in heaven. I keep it simple. A book of comfort. Nothing more. Actually I haven’t read it in over 20 years and probably won’t and when I did it wasn’t much. I took what I wanted from it and that’s all I need. Just the important major things listed above.