Riley Gaines attacked by "transgender terrorists".

[Twilight Hue]

DISCLAIMER: MTG's words, not mine as it applies to title.

Riley Gaines says she was attacked by trans activist students at SFSU

Riley Gaines is a former college swimmer who competed against Lia Thomas and has criticized the unfairness of including transgender athletes in women's sports.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644382739087384579

Trans people , at least in the news, are getting pretty violent lately. First a shooting , now assaulting athletes.

Whatever the reason, this crazy out of control behavior is not acceptable.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Trans people , at least in the news, are getting pretty violent lately.

And why do you think that might be?

 

[Twilight Hue]

And why do you think that might be?

Likely because this stuff actually happened, and it attracts attention via media.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Likely because this stuff actually happened, and it attracts attention via media.

So why do you think the events are happening? Considering also that transgender people are people, and aren't the only ones showing this behavior?

 

[Estro Felino]

What can I say?
I am speechless and what we can see in that video (it's all recorded) is terrifying.
The level of intolerance towards a woman who just expressed her own opinion, (First Amendment), has crossed all thresholds.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Likely because this stuff actually happened, and it attracts attention via media.

You can't think of any current events going on that have enraged the transcommunity?

 

[Twilight Hue]

You can't think of any current events going on that have enraged the transcommunity?

That warrants any justification for real violence?

No.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What can I say?
I am speechless and what we can see in that video (it's all recorded) is terrifying.
The level of intolerance towards a woman who just expressed her own opinion, (First Amendment), has crossed all thresholds.

Speaks for itself. Dosent it?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That warrants any justification for real violence?

No.

Common, you can do this. Think about it for a minute.
And remember, ultimately what justifies violence is in the eye of the beholder. Like Christian Nationalists who view preserving and enforcing Conservative Christianity as justification for violence. We don't have to agree with them, but that is nevertheless how they feel.
Now, try again. Give it a thought.

 

[Estro Felino]

Speaks for itself. Dosent it?

I shed some tears, thinking of what she must have gone through in those moments.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

That warrants any justification for real violence...

...within a community that is constantly being stigmatized and legislated against by one of the two major political parties in power.

Edited to add: I don't promote violence. But I think it is useful to understand the context.

 

[Estro Felino]

...within a community that is constantly being stigmatized and legislated against by one of the two major political parties in power.

Considering that she gave a speech in which she expressed her own opinion, I don't understand why the crowd reacted in that way.
They can disagree civilly.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Common, you can do this. Think about it for a minute.
And remember, ultimately what justifies violence is in the eye of the beholder. Like Christian Nationalists who view preserving and enforcing Conservative Christianity as justification for violence. We don't have to agree with them, but that is nevertheless how they feel.
Now, try again. Give it a thought.

I don't think violence is justified.

Not for a sporting position.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Considering that she gave a speech in which she expressed her own opinion, I don't understand why the crowd reacted in that way.
They can disagree civilly.

I don't condone violence, but I can understand (intellectually) the reaction. A person with a large platform that is adding to the stigmatization of a group of people who have traditionally been marginalized certainly has the right to free speech, but for the marginalized group that is enduring constant stigmatization in the media and being legislated against, this has got to feel very much like self-defense.

Consider this in terms of Martin Luther King Jr.'s words about riots and race relations:

"Let me say as I've always said, and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. ... But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation's summers of riots are caused by our nation's winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again."

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

And why do you think that might be?

Because there a radical loon fringe of trans activists who threaten violence and death against what they deem as "TERFs". It's similar to Antifa, black bloc, radical BLM stuff. They're hateful and crazy. No, there's no justifiable reason for people to be acting this way.

 

[PureX]

People are funny like that. When cops murder black people in front of God, the media, and everyone, and walk away Scott free, black people tend to get really angry. And when republicans pass biased and unfair laws all across the country intended to harm trans people, they tend to get angry, too. And angry people tend to lash out. Often indiscriminately. Because that's how people are.

So I wonder what would be the solution to this? Blaming the angry people for being angry about their being hurt and abused and ignored? Or to address that hurt and abuse, and try to mitigate it? What do you think?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Because there a radical loon fringe of trans activists who threaten violence and death against what they deem as "TERFs". It's similar to Antifa, black bloc, radical BLM stuff. They're hateful and crazy. No, there's no justifiable reason for people to be acting this way.

I am not so sure.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Because there a radical loon fringe of trans activists who threaten violence and death against what they deem as "TERFs". It's similar to Antifa, black bloc, radical BLM stuff. They're hateful and crazy. No, there's no justifiable reason for people to be acting this way.

I can see that view. There's the lunatic fringe for just about every issue, and dosent reflect the majority of people on a personal level.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I can see that view. There's the lunatic fringe for just about every issue, and dosent reflect the majority of people on a personal level.

This is reasonable. I think we need to be careful about how we define a group of people in the context of a few incidents as well as what is occurring in the wider picture to that group.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

People are funny like that. When cops murder black people in front of God, the media, and everyone, and walk away Scott free, black people tend to get really angry. And when republicans pass biased and unfair laws all across the country intended to harm trans people, they tend to get angry, too. And angry people tend to lash out. Often indiscriminately. Because that's how people are.

Funny how no one cared what transgender people did until the last few years, when this trans stuff has exploded into the public in a ridiculous way, with radical activists pushing it on kids and so on. Honestly, the LGBTs had nothing realistically left to fight for after gay marriage because we had legal equality after that, along with public support and sympathy. Now that's quickly eroding, along with a backlash.

This narrative that transgender people are so oppressed by society is as much hogwash as thinking black people are so oppressed. We ain't. Most people didn't give a damn, honestly. It wasn't on their radar. Well, that was when it was just something a small number of adults did.