RIP CNN, the loosers are loosing big time

[Guitar's Cry]

Look at all the deflection attempts to talk about Fox News instead of CNN. “My dog’s better than your dog” arguments are cheap. The simple fact is CNN has been losing ratings for years and jettisoned any credibility long ago. CNN is a dumpster fire emitting toxic fumes that sicken those that breath it.

Fox news is a rotting pile of discarded National Enquirers and KKK flyers that if you step in it, you'll get sucked into a neverending pit of conspiracy theories and shouting from disembodied talking heads all giving you the slackjawed Carlson stare.

 

[metis]

Dont just close up like a clam if you hear anything bad about the liberal media.

I do criticize them when they deserve it. As one who taught a poli sci course for 25 years, I know darn well never to trust any single source, which is why I "cross-check" anything that's even remotely controversial.

The report is about CNN going down the drain, and the measurements of how many viewers and subscribers, and I just do not understand how you can say...

I don't know the numbers, so I will get around to checking them later. But the talking heads at both Fox and CNN constantly demean each other, so don't expect either one of them to be bias free.

Oh, I dont trust Fox news, therefore it must be incorrect.

I didn't say that, only that I certainly do not blindly trust them, nor any other source.

For 10 months now CNN tried to make Biden look great, forgetting that the American people are at the brunt of his socialist communist agenda.

The last three words above show just how ignorant you are on this topic at least. Anyone who knows anything about Biden well knows he's not a "communist", and since he's more conservative than Bernie Sanders, the latter of whom is a "Scandinavian socialist" in his orientation, then logically Biden is highly unlikely to be an actual "socialist". Maybe consider actually looking things up rather than just parroting commentaries.

Investigate into Durham, Hunter Biden, the Ucrane and Joe and his brother, China payoffs, and all the terrible things the Dem leaders are doing to further racism and violence.

Oh, that would be so laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. And for your information, scientific studies have shown that it's the political "right", not the "left", that is far more prone to racism. Maybe spend some time and google it instead of operating on blind belief that you've clearly been thoroughly brainwashed to believe.

Oh, and go watch Laura, Shaun, and Tucker for a change.

You don't even remotely underststand that these are not news reporters but are news commentators. They brand themselves as being "conservatives", and yet they constantly back Trump, who is neither a fiscal conservative, nor a political conservative, nor a social conservative. Even his own sister and niece say that his saying he's pro-life on the issue of abortion is strictly a facade so as to have gotten the Republican nomination in 2016 and 2020 as he has consitstently been pro-choice accordong to them, and Trump says he's closer to his sister than anyone else.

Of the major news channels, studies have shown that Fox is simply the least accurate followed by MSNBC; and PBS NewsHour is the most accurate followed by CNN. Just a remember that "accurate" is not the same as "unbiased".

 

[tytlyf]

Try reading the Durman report and obviously more to come.
Durham's latest indictment: More lines drawn to Clinton's campaign
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/dur...her-steele-trump-russia-dossier-arrested.html

You can't prove the Steele dossier wrong. Fox will lie to your face though. Fox knows you won't fact check what you're told.

 

[esmith]

Have you read the Mueller report? Do you remember the email released by Donald Trump Jr. where someone tells him the Russians want to meet to provide dirt on Hillary and he replies "If it's what you say, I love it"? (and then they met) Do you remember Trump campaign CEO Paul Manafort sending internal polling data to a Russian intelligence operative?

That's collusion.

Did you even read the link I provided.....I doubt it.

 

[metis]

- Emperor Trump.

I hope to start a thread on this soon dealing with what Thomas Friedman said a couple of days ago that should depress anyone who loves democracy in their tracks. He thinks we only dodged a temporary "bullet" and the "best" is yet to come, and I'm afraid he well may be right. I think I'll entitle it "Loosing Our Democracy?".

Please keep an eye out for it as I really would like your input.

 

[esmith]

You can't prove the Steele dossier wrong. Fox will lie to your face though. Fox knows you won't fact check what you're told.

Huh, the links are not from Fox News....but thats understandable, your filters are skewed

 

[Jose Fly]

Did you even read the link I provided.....I doubt it.

Yes, I've read the Durham report. But you didn't answer my question....have you read the Mueller report?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Did you even read the link I provided.....I doubt it.

What does that have to do with the self admitted collusion that he referred to? Trump himself welcomed Russian interference. You may not know this, but if an outside country offers that sort of aid to a candidate that is illegal. He openly said that he welcomed dirt on Hillary Clinton. He later changed his claim to "I was joking" probably after his lawyers told him how stupid that claim was.

It is illegal for a candidate to accept anything of value from a foreign country:

Foreign nationals - FEC.gov

 

[metis]

You can't prove the Steele dossier wrong. Fox will lie to your face though. Fox knows you won't fact check what you're told.

Steele reported this to us, not because he knew it was accurate but that this is what he was told by both some Russian and Dutch operatives. Part, but only part, of that report we know is false and he has acknowledged it as such.

BTW, the report was not supposed to be made public, but two working within the CIA [I believe, but it might have been in the DHS or even the FBI-- I can't remember] did as such and they were fired.

 

[metis]

What does that have to do with the self admitted collusion that he referred to? Trump himself welcomed Russian interference. You may not know this, but if an outside country offers that sort of aid to a candidate that is illegal. He openly said that he welcomed dirt on Hillary Clinton. He later changed his claim to "I was joking" probably after his lawyers told him how stupid that claim was.

It is illegal for a candidate to accept anything of value from a foreign country:

Foreign nationals - FEC.gov

Yep, and I still can't figure out why anyone who loves this country can support a politician who openly admitted that he trusts Putin more than our own 17 intelligence agencies, including the military ones? Maybe I'm too old fashion but we used to call people like that "traitors".

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Look one of the deflectors opining. Still trying to change the subject? CNN is the topic, not Fox News. Thanks for proving my point, Nimrod.

I am a mighty hunter.

(Fox news is a biased rag not even fit for outhouses.)

 

[esmith]

Yes, I've read the Durham report. But you didn't answer my question....have you read the Mueller report?

The majority of it. Why you as?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Look one of the deflectors opining. Still trying to change the subject? CNN is the topic, not Fox News. Thanks for proving my point, Nimrod.

I am a mighty hunter.

(Fox news is a biased rag not even fit for outhouses.)

Seriously, though, CNN and Fox are extremely representative of the ideological divide we see in America. Both are free online, biased towards political parties, and suffer from having unclear boundaries between their opinion articles and hard news.

It is perfectly on-topic to bring up Fox news, host to Liar Tuck's program which has one of the highest viewerships in cable news. That's dreadfully on-topic, considering the toxicity of his ideas to American democracy.

 

[metis]

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It is perfectly on-topic to bring up Fox news, host to Liar Tuck's program which has one of the highest viewerships in cable news.

And the more outlandish they are, the more viewership they tend to get. It's this effect that helped Trump get elected in 2016 as he was on the news almost every day of the week.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

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And the more outlandish they are, the more viewership they tend to get. It's this effect that helped Trump get elected in 2016 as he was on the news almost every day of the week.

Exactly! Fox certainly uses this to their advantage, and unfortunately, people take it seriously even when Fox is forced to admit that Tucker's show is primarily entertainment.

 

[Jose Fly]

The majority of it. Why you as?

Because when someone said there was no collusion and I gave two specific examples of it, you seemed to disagree. So I wondered if you'd read the Mueller report, since it documents many examples of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians.

 

[QuestioningMind]

Try reading the Durman report and obviously more to come.
Durham's latest indictment: More lines drawn to Clinton's campaign
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/dur...her-steele-trump-russia-dossier-arrested.html

Sorry, but nothing in this report or any other erases the pathetic Putin @ss kissing that the Orange Clown did during the course of his presidency. Nor does it erase the fact that he literally asked for Russia's help in 'digging up dirt' on Hilary during his campaign. Do you have such horrible memory loss that you don't recall any of the disgusting things this man has done over the past several years?

 

[tytlyf]

Huh, the links are not from Fox News....but thats understandable, your filters are skewed

Fox and far-right media has been lying about the Steele Dossier for many years. I couldn't care less about the source. I'm going after the main misinformation pushers

 

[Shaul]

I am a mighty hunter.

(Fox news is a biased rag not even fit for outhouses.)

You are a one note Johnny. That doesn’t make you right.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

There is hope in the USA.
for almost 6 years all you heard from CNN was Russia, Russia, Russia.
You know, that lie made up by the Democrat leaders and sold by the Liberal media outlets as solmn truth that Trump colluded with Russia to interfere in the 2016 ellections.
Remember, the lie sold by Hillary and how an inocent man was witch hunted for 4 years of his presidency.

Well, what the Dem leaders and the fake media did not realise is that the American people can be lied to for so long, and eventually the truth will reveal itself.
The Dem leaders and their fake news propagandists could only keep the lie up for so long.

Eventually even the far leftist Democratic investigation against Trump under the leadership of Mueler proved that Hillary, Shiff, and the other liars was so false, that they could only accuse Trump of... "could not disprove that Trump obstructed the investigation"!!!

Oh, and how the Fake media drove that idea!
Since when are someone guilty because there are no evidence of Guilt or inocence?
And now the Durham probe!
And not a word from CNN!
Anyhow, CNN is now in a predicament.
They are forced to further the Biden administration as the best thing since Chocolate, yet it is worse than excrement.
And the American people knows it!
And they realised that CNN does not report on Biden's failures, the Dem leader's lies, Hunter's corruption, to name but a few.
Well, this consistant failure of CNN not to report the truth, but to keep on pushing the lie is their downfall!
Just look at where CNN is going, and this without the help of Trump.
Nope, it is because the Americans realised that the propaganda they were fed was never the truth.
They found out everything they were told, was...yes...FAKE!
CNN ratings crash in October without any regular program averaging 1 million viewers

RIP CNN

It's kind of sad. I remember there was a time when CNN was actually respectable. It was viewed as more moderate than either Fox News or MSNBC, and had good international journalists. But they've gone off the deep end during the Trump admin and are now another left-wing MSNBC clone. Apparently it's for ratings but you'd think they'd give it up since both of those channel's ratings are in the toilet and Fox has been the #1 cable news outlet for years now.