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Robert F. Kennedy for President

F1fan

Veteran Member
For example there are some Americans who believe Sirhan 100%.

That is, Sirhan claims that he doesn't remember shooting RFK senior. That it was not intentional and premeditated.
I argue that any assassin is mentally troubled. Apart from McKinley and Lincoln which were political conspiracies, all others in the 20th century were very troubled killers. There are loads of conspiracy theories out there that I'm sure you read all about. Thus far I had not seen any evidence that the murder of RFK was anything other than a lone nutjob. It's not been anything I have looked into in depth, but I;m sure any actual evidence would be widely reported in reputable media.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I argue that any assassin is mentally troubled. Apart from McKinley and Lincoln which were political conspiracies, all others in the 20th century were very troubled killers. There are loads of conspiracy theories out there that I'm sure you read all about. Thus far I had not seen any evidence that the murder of RFK was anything other than a lone nutjob. It's not been anything I have looked into in depth, but I;m sure any actual evidence would be widely reported in reputable media.

"I argue that any assassin is mentally troubled. Apart from McKinley and Lincoln which were political conspiracies, all others in the 20th century were very troubled killers"

Would you argue that same point about mass shooters?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I argue that any assassin is mentally troubled. Apart from McKinley and Lincoln which were political conspiracies, all others in the 20th century were very troubled killers. There are loads of conspiracy theories out there that I'm sure you read all about. Thus far I had not seen any evidence that the murder of RFK was anything other than a lone nutjob. It's not been anything I have looked into in depth, but I;m sure any actual evidence would be widely reported in reputable media.
Nobody has succeeded in showing how Sirhan knew RFK would go through the pantry area of that LA hotel.
It's chronologically impossible. Sirhan was already there, waiting for him and hiding behind the ice machine.
So it was not a "lone nutjob" for sure. RFK was betrayed by his own staff.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
"I argue that any assassin is mentally troubled. Apart from McKinley and Lincoln which were political conspiracies, all others in the 20th century were very troubled killers"

Would you argue that same point about mass shooters?
Yes. I can't see how any mass murderer is operating with any degree of mental stability. Any assassin or mass shooter is facing being killed, or life in prison. That's not exactly any goal that high school guidance councelors would advise.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Nobody has succeeded in showing how Sirhan knew RFK would go through the pantry area of that LA hotel.
It's chronologically impossible. Sirhan was already there, waiting for him and hiding behind the ice machine.
So it was not a "lone nutjob" for sure. RFK was betrayed by his own staff.
Hello conspiracy theory. Feel free to provide any reputable journalism that supporters your view. It could be possible, but I want clear evidence and research, not internet nonsense.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Hello conspiracy theory. Feel free to provide any reputable journalism that supporters your view. It could be possible, but I want clear evidence and research, not internet nonsense.
I asked a question.
I heard someone say that Sirhan Sirhan had a crystal ball and foresaw that Kennedy would go through the pantry area, after the rally was terminated.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Yes. I can't see how any mass murderer is operating with any degree of mental stability. . That's not exactly any goal that high school guidance councelors would advise.

"I can't see how any mass murderer is operating with any degree of mental stability. Any assassin or mass shooter is facing being killed, or life in prison"

That's why you see them as mentally unstable?

So if they could kill one or ten without facing consequences they wouldn't be mentally unstable then?
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
Guess it a little more complicated.
In fact, the CIA’s in-house historian conceded in 2013 that the spy agency, in its dealings with the Warren Commission, engaged in a “cover-up” of what it knew about Oswald. The historian’s report, released in time for the 50th anniversary of the assassination, found that senior leaders of the CIA intentionally hid information from Warren’s investigation, including about the Castro murder plots, in an attempt to keep the commission “focused instead on what the Agency believed at the time was the ‘best truth’ — that Lee Harvey Oswald for as yet undetermined motives, acted alone in killing John Kennedy.”
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
"I can't see how any mass murderer is operating with any degree of mental stability. Any assassin or mass shooter is facing being killed, or life in prison"

That's why you see them as mentally unstable?

So if they could kill one or ten without facing consequences it would be ok?
They wouldn't be mentally unstable then?
This person sounds perfectly sound. Very cunning and intelligent, since he's asking for parole.
Even if he has never repented and never cooperated with justice.
So he's very sly.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Too specific?
Catholics do understand one another.
I understand RFK perfectly.

Our reward is already God's justice. What RFK fought for.
But at times it's not enough.
That's why Sirhan shall never get out of prison. He should give up and accept that he's going to die there.

May justice be done not only in the Kingdom of Heaven.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
I understand RFK perfectly.

Last month, for example, he put out a video that showed Fauci in a Hitler mustache. In an October speech to the Ron Paul Institute, he obliquely compared public health measures put in place by governments around the world to Nazi propaganda meant to scare people into abandoning critical thinking.
His anti-vaccine activism has earned him allies on the right. In 2017, Republican then-President Donald Trump tapped him to oversee a vaccine review panel, drawing criticism from scientists who said it could legitimize unfounded skepticism.


 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Last month, for example, he put out a video that showed Fauci in a Hitler mustache. In an October speech to the Ron Paul Institute, he obliquely compared public health measures put in place by governments around the world to Nazi propaganda meant to scare people into abandoning critical thinking.
His anti-vaccine activism has earned him allies on the right. In 2017, Republican then-President Donald Trump tapped him to oversee a vaccine review panel, drawing criticism from scientists who said it could legitimize unfounded skepticism.


But when he gave a speech in Milan saying the same things, nobody censored him.
 
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