Rolemodels for gay people

[Lars]

*Looks at person being quoted*

I'm not going to say anything.

Crash Bandicoot is fictional but. He isnt innapropriate is the differnce here. You know what i mean

 

[Lars]

Depending on the half naked guy...yes.

Men go half naked in our society all the time. Ever been to a pool or beach?

Yeah but they arent leching. They just do it out of convenience. I mean more in context to this which is more innapropriate.

Spoiler: Partial nudity

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Crash Bandicoot is fictional but. He isnt innapropriate is the differnce here. You know what i mean

Lol. I didn't think about that. But no, I was referring to something else.

I think what I was really saying was, that saying "Would you want a half-naked man at the door?", In this modern day, is much like asking "Would you like a half-naked woman at the door?"

Or to use another modern phrase people use. "Don't threaten me with a good time."

 

[Lars]

Lol. I didn't think about that. But no, I was referring to something else.

I think what I was really saying was, that saying "Would you want a half-naked man at the door?", In this modern day, is much like asking "Would you like a half-naked woman at the door?"

Or to use another modern phrase people use. "Don't threaten me with a good time."

I meant in context to innapropriate behavior, but maybe bad wording from me there. Either case, i am just saying. Most celebration dates like "Women`s international day" is cakes and normal clothes. It isnt innapropriate is what i mean

edit: or maybe to give a more clear view of what i mean from comedy tv show called "The IT Crowd"

 

[Left Coast]

Yeah but they arent leching. They just do it out of convenience. I mean more in context to this which is more innapropriate.

Spoiler: Partial nudity

Inappropriate how? It would be inappropriate if that person in purple didn't want it. Otherwise it's fine.

It's a butt, bud. You'll be okay.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Side question because I'm not sure how to tackle the OP subject: So if the right guy came along, you'd consider a relationship with them?

You don't have to answer this question, but I just wanted to clarify what I meant....

I'm bi. I've been around a lot of other bi people too. But I just wanted to say if you wouldn't really date men, you're not really bi, just bicurious.

 

[Justanatheist]

Yeah but they arent leching. They just do it out of convenience. I mean more in context to this which is more innapropriate.

Spoiler: Partial nudity

In fairness leathers do make you sweat, but I think he would be better with a bit of body armour. Especially for the elbows and knees. Going down on a public road can give you terrible gravel rash. Always willing to give advice to a fellow biker.

 

[Lars]

Inappropriate how? It would be inappropriate if that person in purple didn't want it. Otherwise it's fine.

It's a butt, bud. You'll be okay.

Well the day when going out naked is ok without being arrested would be that day i guess
edit: Mainly because pride month is public, not a private party event.
But i still stand by it, a party is not the same as a public event of celebrating the struggles. Like "Women`s international day" or others. Its just a circus of obscene culture by socialists, and trying to guilt that anyone who has a problem with it are homophobes and what not

 

[Left Coast]

Well the day when going out naked is ok without being arrested would be that day i guess
edit: Mainly because pride month is public, not a private party event.
But i still stand by it, a party is not the same as a public event of celebrating the struggles. Like "Women`s international day" or others. Its just a circus of obscene culture by socialists, and trying to guilt that anyone who has a problem with it are homophobes and what not

Given the chauvinistic and homophobic things you've already said in this thread and others, sounds like it's still needed.

I'm sorry that you have a problem with people celebrating their liberation from restrictive heterosexual and cisgender sex and dress norms. We're gonna keep doing it, though. The fact that we don't celebrate the way you want us to is...more of a you problem.

 

[Lars]

Given the chauvinistic and homophobic things you've already said in this thread and others, sounds like it's still needed.

I'm sorry that you have a problem with people celebrating their liberation from restrictive heterosexual and cisgender sex and dress norms. We're gonna keep doing it, though. The fact that we don't celebrate the way you want us to is...more of a you problem.

Ok look. There is two types of people in this world. Manginas who believe in femininity "socialists" and people who believe in masculinity "conservatives". Its you socialists who are authoritarians who have to dictate how people should feel because you are control freaks and self validating yourself all the times. So its more a problem with people who cant let go of the fact that perhaps... not everyone wanna think like you?

Also i made another video to explain in detail what i mean

But fyi i dont support Trans roleplaying in society, at age of 15 should be least age to get trans operation before high school, to see if someone really has gender confusion about themselves, since i would argue doing it before that is purely grooming kids. But reason TERF is great is because if you remove the concept of male and female, you will just get roleplayers and society will be a socialist authoritarian circus. It would suck, no consistency, you can just prey on everyone. Wouldnt be good.

Either case, here.

 

[Left Coast]

Ok look. There is two types of people in this world. Manginas who believe in femininity "socialists" and people who believe in masculinity "conservatives". Its you socialists who are authoritarians who have to dictate how people should feel because you are control freaks and self validating yourself all the times. So its more a problem with people who cant let go of the fact that perhaps... not everyone wanna think like you?

You literally want to imprison people who don't dress the way you want them to. Who's an authoritarian here?

But fyi i dont support Trans roleplaying in society, at age of 15 should be least age to get trans operation before high school, to see if someone really has gender confusion about themselves, since i would argue doing it before that is purely grooming kids.

Almost no one gets gender affirming surgery before the age of 15.

But reason TERF is great is because if you remove the concept of male and female, you will just get roleplayers and society will be a socialist authoritarian circus. It would suck, no consistency, you can just prey on everyone. Wouldnt be good.

Why do you continue insisting that LGBTQ people are sexual predators? You understand that's both untrue and harmful to us, right?

 

[MASS_debater]

Honestly closest i could think of is Trevor from Phantasmagoria 2. Think its the most non stereotypical way too. But why its a good role model? "Responsible, good character, has a value system"

Although i do remember when i was a teenager, and Brokeback Mountain was a thing. But i still see it as too much of a parody movie. Its not that i dont value serious movies but its how you do it. Overall i guess i dont make sexuality into a hobby.

And then there is serious propaganda movies, like i remember i saw True Blood when i was younger. And i was like.. look if you want to do one with "Westboro Baptist church" thats fine.. .But the way they did it in that show was so bad, it wasnt believable at all. Thats my problem. I think "All in the Family" atleast had the conservative jokes running, so i can appreciate that show for that.

But the best way to write a character, is having a character in mind when making something new. If that makes sense. But interms of likeable character. Trevor is the coolest one

I’m not allowed to watch those movies I don’t think but my aunt is gay and she’s a good role model she’s got a lot of money and helps me on Skype with math she’s really cool. My cousin gave works at a store and she said he just smokes all the time.

 

[MASS_debater]

You literally want to imprison people who don't dress the way you want them to. Who's an authoritarian here?



Almost no one gets gender affirming surgery before the age of 15.



Why do you continue insisting that LGBTQ people are sexual predators? You understand that's both untrue and harmful to us, right?

Hey my aunts an lgbtq person and she’s awesome and her husband used to be a woman but he’s a man now. They’re both super cool and love everybody.

 

[Lars]

You literally want to imprison people who don't dress the way you want them to. Who's an authoritarian here?



Almost no one gets gender affirming surgery before the age of 15.



Why do you continue insisting that LGBTQ people are sexual predators? You understand that's both untrue and harmful to us, right?

I never said imprison. I said dont make it the norm. It has nothing to do with the roleplaying hobbies they have. Male is male, female is female. As definition thats what works because you dont need roleplayers to prey on weaker people as it is. So having male and female is a constructive system to make it work as a group.

 

[Lars]

I’m not allowed to watch those movies I don’t think but my aunt is gay and she’s a good role model she’s got a lot of money and helps me on Skype with math she’s really cool. My cousin gave works at a store and she said he just smokes all the time.

Thats good to hear! But good to hear your aunt is helping you with that!

 

[Left Coast]

I never said imprison. I said dont make it the norm. It has nothing to do with the roleplaying hobbies they have. Male is male, female is female. As definition thats what works because you dont need roleplayers to prey on weaker people as it is. So having male and female is a constructive system to make it work as a group.

You literally did say they should be arrested:

Rolemodels for gay people

And again, what makes you think that drag queens or other gender nonconforming people are prone to "prey" on others? You understand that has no basis in reality, right? If anything, such people are more likely to be preyed upon, not to prey on others.

As for male and female, that's a whole other thread but there has always been a minority of people who don't fit that mold, either in terms of sex or gender. And there's nothing immoral or dangerous about that.

 

[Lars]

You literally did say they should be arrested:

Rolemodels for gay people

And again, what makes you think that drag queens or other gender nonconforming people are prone to "prey" on others? You understand that has no basis in reality, right? If anything, such people are more likely to be preyed upon, not to prey on others.

As for male and female, that's a whole other thread but there has always been a minority of people who don't fit that mold, either in terms of sex or gender. And there's nothing immoral or dangerous about that.

Taking stuff out of context are you?. Alright, try walking outside naked. See if the cops dont arrest you.

Think only exceptions is private areas of nudism. But thats about it

 

[Left Coast]

Taking stuff out of context are you?. Alright, try walking outside naked. See if the cops dont arrest you.

Think only exceptions is private areas of nudism. But thats about it

No taking stuff out of context. I linked to your entire post.

Yes, I'm aware people can be arrested for public nudity. The point is that you are in favor of that.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

There are so many jokes I want to make that spawned from this thread, that I'm about to explode... and not in a good way.....

But for what it's worth, I do find @Lars as pretty cool. I can like and respect someone and still think they couldn't survive a Tupperware party if their life depended on it.

Plus they like Crash Bandicoot and Slipknot. They're okay with me, even if I'll most likely take the opposing side in most of their debate threads.

Now back to all my post-15 role-playing.

 

[Magic Man]

I just mean the whole thing itself is bad. Its assosiated with Gay Pride though (if you can refer me to straight pride doing this then i will condemn that too). I am not a party crasher or anything. If you wanna make a crazy memorable party thats one thing though. But a public celebration day.... could kinda be a little more serious, i dont know about you?. You dont really see "International Women`s Day" with tits out. Just saying

1) You didn't answer the actual question. You only object to dressing like that when it's members of the LGBTQ+ community? Why don't you object when straight people dress like that? Like when they wear bikinis at the beach or gym clothes to and from the gym (or just at the grocery store like a lot of people do?

2) Why does it matter where they do it? Because they dress like that in a parade, it's different from doing it at the beach or in stores or just walking down the street?

3) There is no "straight pride" because the whole point of gay pride is that homosexuality is something society has told people to be ashamed of for centuries. There's no reason to be proud of being straight. The reason to be proud of being gay is a direct response to that shame pushed on people for so long. It's saying "No, I don't care what you think; I'm gay and not ashamed".

4) Why do you feel like you're the one who gets to decide how gay people should celebrate their pride? This is how they choose to celebrate, partly specifically because it gets on the nerves of homophobes like you. I'm sorry you feel they should be "more serious", but that's too bad.

5) No one has anything out here that other people don't have out in other settings. There are no tits out or anything. So, your comparison to "International Women's Day" doesn't work. Besides the fact that International Women's Day is a different kind of celebration.

6) The point of my original questions was to point out to you that your objection here is nothing more than homophobia. It's not surprising, and it's not even that bad a thing. Society has instilled that in people for so long that it's understandable. Just take some time and realize that that's the reason for your objection. It's not about what they're wearing or some weird sense of propriety. You don't care when people wear next to nothing at the beach, and you don't care when people wear similar outfits in public, when it's not gay people (or drag queens).