lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
I've never understood why you assume that I have no respect for you just because I disagree with you, but whatever.
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Romney strapped dog carrier to top of his car
- Thread starter Mathematician
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Here's a couple examples of animal cruelty I found on the internet. Please, if you have a weak stomach, cover your eyes...
I think this is what Romney's car must have looked like from the sounds of the posts here... I think the thing on the dog's face would be the windbreaker that Romney put together.
(ok, that one was fake, but I thought it was funny - please don't tear me apart!)
I think this is what Romney's car must have looked like from the sounds of the posts here... I think the thing on the dog's face would be the windbreaker that Romney put together.
(ok, that one was fake, but I thought it was funny - please don't tear me apart!)
Not trying to get personal, but aren't you being kind of black and white yourself? We have no idea what the comfort level of the dog was. All we know from the story is that Romney put the dog in a carrier on the roof with some contraption to protect it from the wind and left telling the boys that he wouldn't stop until they needed gas. The dog obviously needed to stop sooner and went to the bathroom on the roof of the car. We don't know anything other than that. I'm sure that Romney isn't the first person who misjudged how long his pet could go without taking a potty break.
athanasius
Well-Known Member
personally I like romney. Why do people get so bent out of shape when a presidential candidate is a certain religion? They act like if he gets in office then the Mormon prophets are gonna run the country. They said the same thing about Kennedy with the Pope and we know that didn't happen. The truth is that Money walks and power talks. It doesn't matter who you get into office, their religion isn't going to matter because there is a balance of Power and becuase corruption happens to almost eveyone regardless of religios preference.
Nanda
Polyanna
Jonny...honestly. If you can't see why a dog shouldn't be strapped to the roof of a car, there's nothing left for me to say.
Jonny...honestly. If you can't see why a dog shouldn't be strapped to the roof of a car, there's nothing left for me to say.
I can see plenty of reasons why a dog shouldn't be strapped to the roof of a car, but I'm not willing to call this incident animal abuse with the information I have and I'm not ready to let it effect my vote for president. Sorry.
Mathematician
Reason, and reason again
Nanda
Polyanna
lol! I think you're arguing against the wrong person. I already said that this didn't effect my vote any. I wasn't going to vote for him in the first place. I still think it's animal abuse, but if he hasn't repeated it in the 20 years since this happened, I'd chalk it up to past mistakes.
Polaris
Active Member
I'll take that to mean you can't rationally reconcile your statement that Romney's "dog incident" is worse than an affair.
Nanda
Polyanna
You can take it however you like, I'm not arguing with you.
gnomon
Well-Known Member
Silly me. And here I thought people would be more concerned over a candidates campaign tied to two men who run, or ran, highly questionable youth programs with alleged abuses worse than those at Abu Ghraib.
Message to all. Get over it!
FFH
Veteran Member
Okay, sorry, must have heard some wrong info then...
I need to research more about this before I have an opinion. In any case, I think that we all need to heed the advice of Elizabeth Edwards and raise the level political diologue. I'd hope that people are sick of dirty politics.
Callmepaul
Member
Let us also hope that people don't disregard the possibility of questionable character or affiliations in order to further some agenda. What wouldn't you be willing to overlook in your desire to see an LDS president? I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but your signature pretty much says it all. I would have probably been willing to acknowledge you as a bit unbiased if you hadn't been so adamant about the dog issue being 'no big deal'. Obviously it is a very big deal to the other posters of this thread. If you had instead said "yeah the guy did something really stupid and unthinking and it was wrong", then I would be more apt to accept that possibility and just move on. But the more you wrote the more upset I got. If the guy is smart he won't hire you as a campaigner, you really know how to rub people the wrong way.
UnityNow101
Well-Known Member
Romney was probably wrong for doing what he did to his poor little dog...But come on. This is not the end of the world. We have all done some pretty dumb things throughout our lives and mustn't judge another man for one of his mishaps. I will say one thing though. NEVER cross PETA! Romney will learn the hard way that you cannot shake off the PETA people easily. If people will not vote for him because of this little issue, then so be it. I wouldn't vote for the guy because he flip-flops on issues worse then John Kerry or Hillary Clinton ever have. And that is where the problem lies with Romney. Not where he chose to place his dog during the family trip.
lillitruthseeker
Member
the nit-picking and background checks are coming out -- every anything anyone ever did in their life will be held against them to the fullest extent -- i feel awful for the poor guys dog but still that was over 20 years ago -- it was in 1983 -- not 2007 -- even though Romney is a good guy he will never ever be president -- that Mormon stigma will never allow it
Polaris
Active Member
That's a ridiculous statement. We (the LDS) are very selective in supporting LDS candidates. The last thing we want is some unqualified candidate to be leading this country and at the same time making Mormons look like fools. I for one hold LDS candidates to a slightly higher standard because if they happen to fail in their responsibilities it will be reflective on Mormons in general for some people.
I think Mitt Romney is an excellent candidate period.