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Ronald Reagans daughters thoughts

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Without Reagan the US would still be a far more social place and not a neo-liberal dystopia.
He did more harm than Trump so far. And I doubt Trump can top Reagan.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Reagan made more people dead, but I guess people want to forget the death squads, how he handled AIDS... so many things that would make people crazy today were normal under him.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Reagan is no reference... but then again, it does not take much to disapprove of Trump.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Reagan made more people dead, but I guess people want to forget the death squads, how he handled AIDS... so many things that would make people crazy today were normal under him.
...Throwing the mentally ill out on the streets, where most ended up in hospitals, prisons, permanently homeless, or dead (and still are) ... using the power of government to union-bust on behalf of his wealthy corporate cronies, resulting in stagnant wages for the last 40 years ... giving poison gas weapons to Iraq, to use against Iran, so that neither side could win the war they were engaged in against each other during his presidency, ... spreading the gospel of "greed is good" and "trickle-down economics" to justify an all-out republican assault on any and all forms of governmental oversight and control of banks and corporations ...

The republicans love and worship Ronald Reagan because he was the perfect puppet-president. Affable, likable, funny, and disarming, and profoundly ignorant: the perfect face to put on an administration that was hell-bent on returning the United States to the days of oligarchy run by a small cadre of wealthy corporate robber-barons, from behind the mask of a phony democracy, ruling over a vast cast of poor and broken 'indentured servants'. And thanks in no small part to Reagan, they've achieved their goals, in spades.
 
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Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
...And thanks in no small part to Reagan, they've achieved their goals, in spades....
It was bound to happen, so I do not blame Reagan. This was due to years of dumbed-down public education superimposed with a sedated church, and the two things together were enough to allow oligarchs into power.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Reagan made more people dead, but I guess people want to forget the death squads, how he handled AIDS... so many things that would make people crazy today were normal under him.
I've weighed in many times on Reagan's deadly deeds,
but we must also remember that he reversed course on
cold war with The Evil Empire (USSR), & by thawing
relations with them, he greatly lowered the risk of
thermonuclear war between us, which almost happened
several times (even by accident...sensor malfunction).
What value should we place on WW3 not happening?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
It was bound to happen, so I do not blame Reagan. This was due to years of dumbed-down public education superimposed with a sedated church, and the two things together were enough to allow oligarchs into power.
I think it's far more complex then that, and far less inevitable. But your point is valid, and duly noted.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
I've weighed in many times on Reagan's deadly deeds,
but we must also remember that he reversed course on
cold war with The Evil Empire (USSR), & by thawing
relations with them, he greatly lowered the risk of
thermonuclear war between us, which almost happened
several times (even by accident...sensor malfunction).
What value should we place on WW3 not happening?
Well like most politicians, he's a mixed bag. How much good or bad he is personally responsible for, I can't say. I think he lucked out on the cold war, having Gorbachev on the other side with a Soviet Union that was keeping up appearances despite being near collapse.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well like most politicians, he's a mixed bag. How much good or bad he is personally responsible for, I can't say. I think he lucked out on the cold war, having Gorbachev on the other side with a Soviet Union that was keeping up appearances despite being near collapse.
Luck is certainly a factor, but his change of heart, recognition
of the value of detente, & his pursuit of peace was all on him.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
She said Ronald Reagan would be appalled by Trump and his whole administration not standing up to him.
Reagan’s Daughter: Dad Would Be ‘Appalled’ by Trump Presidency
I do believe any person who tries his/her best to be a moral person not only shouldn't be supporting him but should be utterly appalled and offended at all that he has said and done. As Gandhi said "To cooperate with evil is evil", and we can cite quite a list of those evil things that he has said and done without any of remorse on his part.

But what should be expect of a man who brags about his not needing to pray or to ask God for forgiveness?
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
Trump is in that group that upsets both sides. The many people who see both parties as causing problems and gave up on even voting. To me, if he's upsetting both sides, he must be doing something right.

They complain as things are getting accomplished. Imagine that.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
I'm sure Ronald Reagan Jr despises Trump as well. Most people despise Trump. But people despised him long before the presidency.

I think people are just angry that Reagan banned more weapons than Obama.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I'm sure Ronald Reagan Jr despises Trump as well. Most people despise Trump. But people despised him long before the presidency.

I think people are just angry that Reagan banned more weapons than Obama.

You know "most people", do you?
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
You know "most people", do you?
I know the mindset of anyone who likes conservative media. Millions. They all sound the same, repeat the same things, believe the same things, etc.

And none of them think Climate change is a problem.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
...Throwing the mentally ill out on the streets, where most ended up in hospitals, prisons, permanently homeless, or dead (and still are) ... using the power of government to union-bust on behalf of his wealthy corporate cronies, resulting in stagnant wages for the last 40 years ... giving poison gas weapons to Iraq, to use against Iran, so that neither side could win the war they were engaged in against each other during his presidency, ... spreading the gospel of "greed is good" and "trickle-down economics" to justify an all-out republican assault on any and all forms of governmental oversight and control of banks and corporations ...

The republicans love and worship Ronald Reagan because he was the perfect puppet-president. Affable, likable, funny, and disarming, and profoundly ignorant: the perfect face to put on an administration that was hell-bent on returning the United States to the days of oligarchy run by a small cadre of wealthy corporate robber-barons, from behind the mask of a phony democracy, ruling over a vast cast of poor and broken 'indentured servants'. And thanks in no small part to Reagan, they've achieved their goals, in spades.


Some of this I agree with some I dont. I do think reagab did some good where jobs go there were a lot of jobs. However I agree about the mentally Ill I was one of those back then. I was sent to live in hospitals for years because I was suicidal something they would not hospitalize young teens for over 6 weeks now, I stayed in hospitals for 3 years. I was abused physically with restraints, had thorazine shoved down me and I was abused with meds and molested by a guy named Grady when I was restrained for 4 months.

Hospital officials told my Mom and Dad get ready she will spend the rest of her life in and out of psych wars and or prison.

I have never stepped foot into a jail or prison once, this was 35 years ago and I never stepped foot back into a psych ward.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I have a hard time believing Reagan--Iran-Contra, state drug dealing, Reaganomics, divisive inherent distrust of the state, make America great again--would disapprove that much of what Trump is doing. Trump has been a continuation of the pro-rich/anti-poor, do whatever I want, make America great by attacking rather than fixing the institute that makes America function of what Reagan started. Of course time will tell, but Reagan's legacy undoubtedly at this point left behind more destruction and death than what Trump is looking to leave behind. In so far as at least Trump is propping up bands of anti-state militias here-and-there to subvert the democratic process of other sovereign nations and isn't supporting religious extremists.
 
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