Roseanne??

[WalterTrull]

I am not a regular watcher of “The View”. This morning, however, I happened to see an excerpt about Roseanne. There was a screaming video of her seemingly somewhat out of her mind. The consensus of the panel was that Roseanne was descending and someone should help her. There apparently are no takers. It seems that as long as her handlers can make money from her misery, no one will. At the end of the segment though, Whoopie quipped that it might be an elaborate con. Ouch! There’s an indictment here, but of what?

 

[Quetzal]

I have no sympathy for that woman.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have no sympathy for that woman.

Why do you hate Whoopie Goldberg?

 

[PureX]

I am not a regular watcher of “The View”. This morning, however, I happened to see an excerpt about Roseanne. There was a screaming video of her seemingly somewhat out of her mind. The consensus of the panel was that Roseanne was descending and someone should help her. There apparently are no takers. It seems that as long as her handlers can make money from her misery, no one will. At the end of the segment though, Whoopie quipped that it might be an elaborate con. Ouch! There’s an indictment here, but of what?

The corner of the media echo chamber that is "The View" does not reflect any reality that matters. Only Rosanne knows if she has been sucked into it or not, and only she can choose to get out. And if you are being sucked into it, you should probably get yourself out, as well. It's an abyss of delusion and nonsense.

 

[David1967]

Why do you hate Whoopie Goldberg?

I don't hate her, but she can be a bit much sometimes.

 

[Stevicus]

I am not a regular watcher of “The View”. This morning, however, I happened to see an excerpt about Roseanne. There was a screaming video of her seemingly somewhat out of her mind. The consensus of the panel was that Roseanne was descending and someone should help her. There apparently are no takers. It seems that as long as her handlers can make money from her misery, no one will. At the end of the segment though, Whoopie quipped that it might be an elaborate con. Ouch! There’s an indictment here, but of what?

I never watched any of her shows. I never thought she was all that funny.

Star Trek was a much better show, and Whoopi played Guinan on Star Trek. Her homeworld was destroyed by the Borg, but she was able to escape and make it to Earth and become a talk show host.

 

[columbus]

I have no sympathy for that woman.

Why is that?
I personally liked her brand of politically incorrect humor. I think she got a raw deal over one fairly ordinary tweet.
I used to like her show, although I didn't see it often since I don't watch TV. The one episode of the new reboot I saw was, if anything, annoyingly PC. Roseanne had to befriend the Pakistani Muslims next door because her internet was shut off for nonpayment and the Muslims had the only WiFi signal strong enough to connect to her home.

I just don't see what the big deal with that one tweet was. If she were black it wouldn't have mattered much, of that I am sure.
Tom

 

[BSM1]

I never watched any of her shows. I never thought she was all that funny.

Star Trek was a much better show, and Whoopi played Guinan on Star Trek. Her homeworld was destroyed by the Borg, but she was able to escape and make it to Earth and become a talk show host.

And you thought "Aliens" was scary...

 

[Revoltingest]

I never watched any of her shows. I never thought she was all that funny.

Star Trek was a much better show, and Whoopi played Guinan on Star Trek. Her homeworld was destroyed by the Borg, but she was able to escape and make it to Earth and become a talk show host.

Where are the Borg when you need them.

 

[Estro Felino]

Her tweet was targeted not because for the lame joke, but because it revealed the truth: that is, Obama is member of that terrorist organization.

Americans can still idolize him...truth still stands

btw...Americans I advise u to go to Cairo and ask around...saying Obama is a terrorist, is a given

 

[jonathan180iq]

Are we having any conversations about how ridiculous it is to fire people over Tweets from 10 years ago? Or to send professional baseball players to sensitivity training because of things they said when they were 17? Or to fire the lead actress from a show because she made an idiotic remark late at night, with no one to vet her response.

These things seem so petty and stupid to me. I don't understand internet outrage.

 

[Stevicus]

Are we having any conversations about how ridiculous it is to fire people over Tweets from 10 years ago? Or to send professional baseball players to sensitivity training because of things they said when they were 17? Or to fire the lead actress from a show because she made an idiotic remark late at night, with no one to vet her response.

These things seem so petty and stupid to me. I don't understand internet outrage.

I tend to agree. Some people see it as political correctness gone out of control, while others see political correctness as necessary to enforce politeness and courtesy. I can see where some organizations may feel the need to protect themselves from the kind of internet outrage you're talking about - particularly if they're in the entertainment business and depend on ratings and the goodwill of the public.

 

[jonathan180iq]

I tend to agree. Some people see it as political correctness gone out of control, while others see political correctness as necessary to enforce politeness and courtesy. I can see where some organizations may feel the need to protect themselves from the kind of internet outrage you're talking about - particularly if they're in the entertainment business and depend on ratings and the goodwill of the public.

Yes. But I see it as fringe voices being given the cloak of mass protest, when it doesn't actually exist.

It's fabricated rage. James Gunn, for example, was fired from a movie series that he created because some hardline conservatives purposefully hunted for copies of his old deleted tweets. That's a terrible precedent to set.

Roseanne immediately apologized for writing something stupid, and she continues to regret the joke to this day. That's remorse. What more can you ask of someone?
The show will collapse without her, and the hundreds of people working on it will be without a job... all because of a Tweet... something that is utterly meaningless.

I'd like to meet the people who are actually affected by these tweets; the people who are actually hurt by reading bad jokes on the world wide web.

 

[Stevicus]

Yes. But I see it as fringe voices being given the cloak of mass protest, when it doesn't actually exist.

It's fabricated rage. James Gunn, for example, was fired from a movie series that he created because some hardline conservatives purposefully hunted for copies of his old deleted tweets. That's a terrible precedent to set.

Roseanne immediately apologized for writing something stupid, and she continues to regret the joke to this day. That's remorse. What more can you ask of someone?
The show will collapse without her, and the hundreds of people working on it will be without a job... all because of a Tweet... something that is utterly meaningless.

I'd like to meet the people who are actually affected by these tweets; the people who are actually hurt by reading bad jokes on the world wide web.

I don't know if anyone actually had their feelings hurt by any of these tweets; I'd like to meet them too, if any of them actually exist.

I think what it comes down to is that, if someone makes a slip of the tongue, the general feeling is that it reveals something about their inner character which is viewed as something ugly in contrast to their public image. Even if they apologize, the milk is already spilled. The idea is that if someone has such ugly thoughts in their brain, then they must truly be irredeemable. They're considered horrible human beings, or "deplorable," as some might put it. No apology will cut it; there is no redemption, no forgiveness, no reconciliation.

However, in the example you cited regarding James Gunn, it seems that everyone has skeletons in their closet. Everyone is a little bit "deplorable" in their own way.

In a culture where grudges are permanent and there is no forgiveness/redemption for being politically incorrect, it's not that difficult to see why civility has broken down and positions have become more polarized. When one side sees itself as morally superior to the other, then the other side will try to challenge and tear down that perception.

And that may be where the solution to the problem lies. The kind of self-righteous, supercilious, pompous, arrogant, overzealous "moral outrage" which dominates political discourse should be attacked for its own sake.

 

[Deidre]

I saw that and also part of her interview with Sean Hannity and I couldn’t figure out how such an incoherent, crazy sounding person could convince a network of execs to reboot her show.

 

[Shad]

These things seem so petty and stupid to me. I don't understand internet outrage.

Humans are emotional animals. So if the media pulls the rights strings they can induce a response they get more readers thus more ad revenue.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I saw that and also part of her interview with Sean Hannity and I couldn’t figure out how such an incoherent, crazy sounding person could convince a network of execs to reboot her show.

Given the attention she gets, its crazy not to sign her up.

Think of it, a reality show, with Roseanne.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Humans are emotional animals. So if the media pulls the rights strings they can induce a response they get more readers thus more ad revenue.

That's how they all roll!!!!

 

[WalterTrull]

OK, back to what I was trying to get at in my original post. It was inferred that Roseanne was sinking into darkness and someone should help her. No one was offering. In this case we should just walk on by, on the other side of the street?

 

[Twilight Hue]

OK, back to what I was trying to get at in my original post. It was inferred that Roseanne was sinking into darkness and someone should help her. No one was offering. In this case we should just walk on by, on the other side of the street?

It's not like she's a pauper and at severe disadvantage. I'm sure her loved ones are there for her. Fans of course can show their concerns and support .

The rest is entirely up to her.