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Cacotopia

Let's go full Trottle
Well our backyard volcano Agung is acting up again, I felt a short rumble last nice, maybe a 2,0 on the RIchter scale, didn't feel like a harmonic earthquake thought nothing of it, but apparently they think the volcano gonna pop it's top again.

It did last year, on November 27, I watched it happen from my porch at 5:45 in the morning, big ash cloud soaring towards the sky, but that was a burp compared to what it was capable of. Mind you I'm less than 20 miles away from this sucker. So if it really blows up? I'm dead.

Death by volcano, more metal than a plane crash with a no so instant death like I'd hope for. Meh.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Well...we all gotta die sometime...I think it would be neat to die some interesting way like a volcano (rather than old age)...but for those who aren't in love with dying, I hope this doesn't become something lethal... for anyone!
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Are you in Hawaii? Sounds scary.where I'm from it's tornadoes. But often you can at least get out of their way. Stay safe.
 

Cacotopia

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I'm in Bali, Indonesia, we gots 3 active volcanoes, some might say 2 since one hasn't been active above ground, but there is lots of geothermal activity below, enough that there is a power plant there siphoning the heat from the ground.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Are you in Hawaii? Sounds scary.where I'm from it's tornadoes. But often you can at least get out of their way. Stay safe.
We had a tornado a couple years ago, I was working in the library and was herded into the basement, and of all the tornadoes I've been through this one worried me as it was reported as doing massive damage (Starbucks was blown over, many homes destroyed), and near where my brother lives and my mom works, and also that it was heading my general direction. It's so amazing to see such a thing though, and the destructive awe and beauty that is a tornado.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I'm in Bali, Indonesia, we gots 3 active volcanoes, some might say 2 since one hasn't been active above ground, but there is lots of geothermal activity below, enough that there is a power plant there siphoning the heat from the ground.

Yikes!
 

Cacotopia

Let's go full Trottle
We had a tornado a couple years ago, I was working in the library and was herded into the basement, and of all the tornadoes I've been through this one worried me as it was reported as doing massive damage (Starbucks was blown over, many homes destroyed), and near where my brother lives and my mom works, and also that it was heading my general direction. It's so amazing to see such a thing though, and the destructive awe and beauty that is a tornado.
I grew up in OKC, there was some massive tornado when I was about 4/5 we ran across the street and hid in a neighbor's storm shelter. Our house was fine amazingly, but 2 blocks away from us. the neighborhood got wiped out. I remember one of those phone utility trucks sticking out of the roof of one of the houses.
 

Cacotopia

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Not really amazing looking from farish away.
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Cacotopia

Let's go full Trottle
If only I could add videos, I would share you a video I got from an insane argentinian that climbed INTO the crater and filmed the sound and view of the active volcano. The sound is scary bruh, scary.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I grew up in OKC, there was some massive tornado when I was about 4/5 we ran across the street and hid in a neighbor's storm shelter. Our house was fine amazingly, but 2 blocks away from us. the neighborhood got wiped out. I remember one of those phone utility trucks sticking out of the roof of one of the houses.

The one that hit the Moore Okc area in 2000 Was an F5. Looked like a giant with a lawn mower went through. My sister and her family lived in Moore then, the tornado missed their home by about a block. Several have hit Moore since. I don't know why people would want to live there.
 

Cacotopia

Let's go full Trottle
I don't understand why there aren't underground homes in Oklahoma. where are the Hobbit hole houses.
 

Cacotopia

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Where be these houses in tornado zone, almost no where, but they keep rebuilding their houses out of wood, didn't these people ever listen to the three little pigs?

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Problem
A typical house, made of wood, can be destroyed by tornado in a total time of four seconds only. The dismantling begins with the spreading debris and crushing the windows, followed by the rushing air, entering through every opening of the house, blowing the roof of house. Then after the roof is gone, the walls collapse. In the final second, all the things in the house, like furniture, books, mementos, are blown away.

The speed of destruction is so fast that it’s always difficult to design for the engineers to build tornado resistant buildings. The people from the areas of Missouri and Joplin, areas that are highly affected by tornadoes, are still looking for such a design of home which is good looking as well as resists the forces of tornadoes. Tornado-proof building designs are available at markets, but they give a look of bunker in normal days, as a result, locals do not prefer them.

So the designer have to keep the resiliency to livability ratio constant in designing the tornado resistant buildings just like they do in other disasters like flooding, hurricanes, earthquakes.

“If you try to make a full earthquake-proof building, you will be ended with a 2ft thick box type structurewith just one opening to let you in,” according to famous architect of California, Michael Willis. “You can design a 100% tornado-resistant structure, but it will not meet the requirements of the users.”

So the main objective to be kept in mind while designing in disasters affected areas is to keep the balance between safety and serviceability.

Solution
So a competition was announced under the title of “Designing Recovery” for three different kinds of natural disasters, Hurricane, Tornado and Super-storm, one for each. The most interesting was tornado-resistant building, as it faced a complete different scenario in parts of the country where natural conditions are unfavorable in building basements and tornado cellars.

Details of Plan
Q4 Architects came with an idea of creating some safe place inside the home changing the trend of creating safe places under the home, just like a building inside a building. This idea can be implementedanywhere in tornado affected area. Almost 600 sq.ft area made of high quality concrete with tornado doors and hurricane shutters, a place enough to keep the family as well as there valuables safe in tornadoes, covered with several rooms of timber.

The plan given by the Q4 Architect is shown in figure. In normal days, the family is able to use car porch (No. 7), airy breezeway, light-filled great room (No. 5) and bedroom wing. Where as in case of tornado, the residents can move to the core of the building, which also have Murphy beds, bathroom, kitchen.

The main idea behind creating such plan was to keep the cost of house below 50,000 dollars. One may simply ask that why not to build the entire house with the same concrete material. The answer is that it will again give a look of bunker and also construction cost will be too high. And the main thing is that the locals not want to live there, whereas with this idea, u can wrapped as many rooms with numerous styles as you want.

So this idea kept the resiliency to livability ratio constant in case of tornado-proof just like we kept it constant in other natural disasters proof buildings.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I don't understand why there aren't underground homes in Oklahoma. where are the Hobbit hole houses.

You'd think there would be. At least now they are putting tornado shelters in the schools. I have a cellar but luckily the area I live has never had a tornado in my lifetime.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Well, at least we don't have volcanoes. ..yet anyway. But earthquakes are getting common here.
 

Cacotopia

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Well in the last month there have been 2 7.0's and I feel at least a dozen or so shakes a day, tiny ones. I don't know about seismology but I'm thinking large eqrth quakes can trigger volcanoes without looking it up first.
 

DanishCrow

Seeking Feeds
Hear this: Have you got anything to lose? I'd start worshipping Agung, maybe sacrifice some fruits and sweets, propitiate the old mountain with wild abandon.

If the worst happens, you're dead anyway. If you become friends, Agung will eat your enemy instead.
 
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