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Sacrificed a Fatted Calf Lately?

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Karl R

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sandy whitelinger said:
For those who claim to be Jewish and that salvation is by works, have you sacrificed any animals for your sins lately? Why not?
As Becky mentioned, sacrifices were done at the temple, and only at the temple.

I was visiting a conservative jewish friend of mine yesterday and he made a statement that related to this directly.

I don't have my bible with me, so I can't find the exact quote, but in Isaiah, there is a statement regarding what should be done in lieu of sacrifices in the absence of the temple.

Instead of sacrifices of atonement, the jews are supposed to pray. Instead of another kind of sacrifice (I think it was the sacrifice for peace), the jews are to practice charity. Instead of all other forms of sacrifices, the jews are supposed to practice justice.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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sandy whitelinger said:
For those who claim to be Jewish and that salvation is by works, ...
I cannot think of a single person who has said such a thing. Perhaps you're merely confused ...
 

Abram

Abraham
Karl R said:
As Becky mentioned, sacrifices were done at the temple, and only at the temple.

I was visiting a conservative jewish friend of mine yesterday and he made a statement that related to this directly.

I don't have my bible with me, so I can't find the exact quote, but in Isaiah, there is a statement regarding what should be done in lieu of sacrifices in the absence of the temple.

Instead of sacrifices of atonement, the jews are supposed to pray. Instead of another kind of sacrifice (I think it was the sacrifice for peace), the jews are to practice charity. Instead of all other forms of sacrifices, the jews are supposed to practice justice.
Temple? What about Cain and Abel? Noah after the flood? No temple's there.

I think Sandy has made a great point. If you have no sacrifice for your sins then there still there.
 

Bishka

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Abram said:
Temple? What about Cain and Abel? Noah after the flood? No temple's there.

I think Sandy has made a great point. If you have no sacrifice for your sins then there still there. The Jews better start killing or get on the Jesus bus...

Yet Abel and Cain both sacrificed.
 

Abram

Abraham
beckysoup61 said:
Yet Abel and Cain both sacrificed.
I know, that was my point. They had no temple to sacrifice to, yet they still sacrificed. If you were a true to word Torah reading and beliving Jew then you must give sacrificed for your sins. Blood must be spilt!
 

evearael

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Temple? What about Cain and Abel? Noah after the flood? No temple's there.
Cain, Abel, Noah--Not Jewish.
I think Sandy has made a great point. If you have no sacrifice for your sins then there still there. The Jews better start killing or get on the Jesus bus...
Read the askmoses links on the subject about the first sentence. Those should more than clarify the issue at hand. The second sentence shows nothing but ignorance of Judaism and hatred, as does the following:
I know, that was my point. They had no temple to sacrifice to, yet they still sacrificed. If you were a true to word Torah reading and beliving Jew then you must give sacrificed for your sins. Blood must be spilt!
I may disagree with Sandy, but I certainly respect his civility and his right to ask questions about other faiths.
 

Booko

Deviled Hen
Abram said:
Temple? What about Cain and Abel? Noah after the flood? No temple's there.
That was before Sinai...what's your point?

I think Sandy has made a great point. If you have no sacrifice for your sins then there still there. The Jews better start killing or get on the Jesus bus...
The point y'all just made is that it would be better if you Jesus bus folks actually learned something about Judaism before you go off saying such inaccurate things about another religion.

G-d knows it would never occur to just pop into a thread and ask Jews why they don't do sacrifice anymore. That would be too difficult.:rolleyes:
 

Opethian

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Does the Torah specify what kind of organisms you're supposed to sacrifice? If not, why not sacrifice a few million micro organisms by spilling a bit of antibiotic over a surface :cool:.
 

Abram

Abraham
Booko said:
That was before Sinai...what's your point?


The point y'all just made is that it would be better if you Jesus bus folks actually learned something about Judaism before you go off saying such inaccurate things about another religion.

G-d knows it would never occur to just pop into a thread and ask Jews why they don't do sacrifice anymore. That would be too difficult.:rolleyes:
Then teach me! Tell me why they don't sacrifice anymore. I have a open mind and would really love to know. Being that RF is for religious education, right!
The point I made was trying to make is that Jesus was the final sacrifice, the entire reason the OT was inspired.
So Booku why don't they sacrifice any more?
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Abram

Abraham
Opethian said:
Does the Torah specify what kind of organisms you're supposed to sacrifice? If not, why not sacrifice a few million micro organisms by spilling a bit of antibiotic over a surface :cool:.
I does in great detail. Even the way to do it is there. Nothing about micro organisms though?
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