Sacrificed a Fatted Calf Lately?

[Booko]

So my question is where does it say in the Bible to stop sacrificing because there is no temple? please

You might also find it interesting to find out what the holy day of Yom Kippur is all about.

 

[Abram]

You might also find it interesting to find out what the holy day of Yom Kippur is all about.

I do know! I heard they used to tie a rope to the priests ankle and put a bell on him so if anything happened they could pull him out because no one would go in? Is that true?

 

[Booko]

I do know! I heard they used to tie a rope to the priests ankle and put a bell on him so if anything happened they could pull him out because no one would go in? Is that true?

I was thinking more about reflecting on the past year and how you had harmed someone, trying to make amends and asking for mechilah (forgiveness) and that sort of thing.

imo it's a very good thing to have a regular period of reflection and asking for forgiveness like this, because it helps to keep one mindful about the mistakes we have made and what can be done to make up for them. Sometimes you can't make amends to the person you've wronged, but you can do charitable acts in their name at least.

 

[Abram]

I was thinking more about reflecting on the past year and how you had harmed someone, trying to make amends and asking for mechilah (forgiveness) and that sort of thing.

imo it's a very good thing to have a regular period of reflection and asking for forgiveness like this, because it helps to keep one mindful about the mistakes we have made and what can be done to make up for them. Sometimes you can't make amends to the person you've wronged, but you can do charitable acts in their name at least.

Now this is pointed at me!

 

[Booko]

You should read the last 10 posts. Its been made real clear that I messed up, and was wrong about the temple. So I'm human and make mistakes, oh well, live and learn.

No, it really wasn't aimed at you -- I've read the whole thread. The entire thread began on an ignorant comment made in the spirit of harassing people and not really wanting to be confused by any facts.

You may have gotten off to a bad start, but it's become quickly obvious that you're trying to understand something. I can't imagine anyone in this thread having a problem with someone making a mistake and owning up to it, and moving on to actually discuss something. We all make mistakes, that's no big deal.

You might find you have a little problem with proselytizing to Jews though. To say they don't appreciate it would be an understatement. An exchange of ideas, that's another thing altogether.

 

[Abram]

You might find you have a little problem with proselytizing to Jews though. To say they don't appreciate it would be an understatement. An exchange of ideas, that's another thing altogether.

I do agree with this. I strugle with this more then any post could explain... I'm always going to far...

 

[Booko]

I do agree with this. I strugle with this more then any post could explain... I'm always going to far...

When you can put yourself in the other person's shoes and see things how they do, it becomes easier.

While obviously I can't speak for Jews here or elsewhere, I've seen what they've said in similar circumstances when being proselytized to.

Understand that in asking them to believe in Jesus, what it really sounds like to them is, "you should take up idolatry" because that's what the common Christian view of Jesus amounts to. Also, Judaism is not an exclusive religion, so trying to sell people on the idea of "only one way to God" is a tough sell also. And then there are the prophecies about moshiach that are not fulfilled. The past 2000 years is not exactly a history of the peace promised in the Tenach. These are the usual things that I read and hear from Jews about why they don't see the need to or would not want to become Christians. There are other reasons, I'm sure.

Hang around a bit. I think you'll figure out what the "hot button" issues are pretty quickly, and find some ways to have a conversation without things blowing up.

Zeal is a good thing, but only if tempered with wisdom and consideration for others. People often think they have a choice between whacking someone over the head with their beliefs and compromising their beliefs, and the reality is there's a huge middle ground between those two extremes.

 

[Bishka]

:sorry1: Not you! He was still being rude to Sandy. Thats it, nothing more or less.
The Jews are right, the Bible specificly says only sacrifice in a temple he choose. This thread is going the wrong direction.
Come here Becky and Alan :group:

I'm sorry.:cover: :sorry1:

 

[Booko]

Now this is pointed at me!

Uh..not unless you're Jewish and celebrate Yom Kippur?

I apologize for reacting badly at first, assuming basically "Oh G-d, not another one!" :sorry1: Mea culpa. But please, Abram, try not to be oversensitive about stuff, ok? The "you" that you put in bold was a collective you and can apply to every human, since none of us is perfect.

 

[jewscout]

For those who claim to be Jewish and that salvation is by works, have you sacrificed any animals for your sins lately? Why not?

wow!
like that's not offensive!

ummmm because, and for the last time...
THE TORAH PRESCRIBES SACRIFICES ONLY IN THE BEIT HAMIKDASH, THE HOLY TEMPLE, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE...NOW WE PRAY AND DO GOOD DEEDS TO MAKE REPENTANCE!!

acknowledge u did something wrong, repent for it and try to make amends...
it's a shocking concept i know:sarcastic

 

[sandy whitelinger]

our G-d weighs our over all actions and then decides if we attain salvation or not...

Give scripture for this.

Dont tempt me to A war of the Talmud, your inability to interpret statements will destroy you!

Prove your statements with the Talmud then.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

...NOW WE PRAY AND DO GOOD DEEDS TO MAKE REPENTANCE!!....

Without shouting can you offer the scripture that backs this up?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Don't get into analysis because your blind to your own prejudices.

Don't interpret Judaism through Christianity.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Don't interpret Judaism through Christianity.

Non Seqitor.

 

[jewscout]

Without shouting can you offer the scripture that backs this up?

see here's the problem...christianity focuses so much on the christian scriptures but in judaism so much of how judaism functions in not found in the Torah
so can i show you scripture that says that...not directly no
but since the destruction of the Temple the Talmud along w/ other rabbinical writings have found ways to do repentance w/o animal sacrifices...

besides, prayer or sacrifice, it doesn't mean squat if you aren't sorry for what you did and make a change to not do it again.

and no this doesn't prove anything to me about christianity...i do not believe jesus was anything more than a man or at worst the figment of someone's imagination.

the idea of human sacrifice, regardless of how poetically u color it, is taboo in Judaism...
and we don't believe in eternal damnation anyways...so what is there to save us from???

 

[Mike182]

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