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Sadhguru on the cause of violence and its solution

ajay0

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Insightful article by Sadhguru on the cause of violence and its solution...

The Cause of Violence and the Solution to Stop It

Look at yourself as an individual and see how many moments in a day do you feel you simply cannot stand the person sitting next to you? Trying to hold yourself back is going to work only for a certain period of time. It is bound to explode somewhere when certain situations allow it because the violence is within the human being. That is the violence that needs to be attended to. If we do not put out the fires within the human being, you cannot put out the fires on the street. Today or tomorrow it will light up again.

We need to understand that a human being is enormous energy and tremendous potential. If he doesn’t find expression to his energies and harness and direct them properly, he will invariably perform violent acts. Violence does not necessarily mean you go out and kill someone. You are angry, you are irritated, you cannot sit still – this is violence. If we do not root it out from its innermost core, peace will not happen. The science of Yoga is just this: learning to harness and direct your energies in the right way, so that who you are finds its ultimate expression. If you do not allow this energy which you call as life to find its expression, it naturally tries to find its way out in violent ways. ~ Sadhguru
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Insightful article by Sadhguru on the cause of violence and its solution...

The Cause of Violence and the Solution to Stop It
Should be one of the topics in schools, if you want it to be successful (but even then)

Otherwise mainly the non violent will practice yoga. Because to observe your anger is one of the more difficult and less convenient practices

And knowing we still have ca. 400.000 more years of Kali Yuga to go, I don't expect this to change any time soon

But on the individual level, this is a very useful practice, but even then it probably takes years to reduce deep hidden anger inside

Even the Sage Viswamitra was known for His Anger issues. And He was Spiritual quite advanced...He was the Guru even of Rama.

Knowing all this, for me the Path of Bhakti is the only solution. I need God's help
 
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stvdv

Veteran Member
Insightful article by Sadhguru on the cause of violence and its solution...

The Cause of Violence and the Solution to Stop It
The best solution, imo, is to teach (future) parents to not mess up their children, because deep anger, usually from childhood, is almost impossible to reverse. God's Grace is needed for this

So, it should be taught at very young age, to be successful. Too much focus on making money now, understandably this results in more crimes
 

The Crimson Universe

Active Member
Sadhguru is a celebrity guru.

There are many allegations against him.
Here's an article if anyone's interested-
How Sadhguru built his Isha empire. Illegally

Then there are rumours that he murdered his wife in the 90s.
Sadguru aka Jaggi Vasudev says her death is due to nirvikalpa samadhi but his father-in-law thinks its a murder.
Here's an article -
Did Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev Kill his Wife?

Its a wise thing to do a background check of a so called guru before you start following him.
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
There are many allegations against him.
Here's an article if anyone's interested-
How Sadhguru built his Isha empire. Illegally

Then there are rumours that he murdered his wife in the 90s.
Sadguru aka Jaggi Vasudev says her death is due to nirvikalpa samadhi but his father-in-law thinks its a murder.
Here's an article -
Did Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev Kill his Wife?

Its a wise thing to do a background check of a so called guru before you start following him.

Sadhguru is all right. He has a very good background, and this ridiculous allegation is the only one of few issued against him.

His wife, after hearing Sadhguru talk to a saint on the tremondous bliss of Nirvikalpa samadhi, developed a passionate interest in it.

Sadhguru was against her wish, because without the prior preparation, enlightenment can result in loss of the body, and had communicated it to her.

However his wife Vijayalakshmi persisted in her wish, and attained Nirvikalpa samadhi, and died in the process, and this was witnessed by people and disciples in their vicinity. This was however misinterpreted by Vijayalakshmi's parents as suspicious , and the police after investigation had cleared Sadhguru of all charges back then. Unfortunately, those who have an axe to grind keeps on popping such allegations at him even though Vijayalakshmi died way back in 1997.

After enlightenment, most people willingly leave the body due to sheer bliss, and only a few, due to past impressions of compassion, stay behind to teach and mentor other spiritual aspirants and make the path easier for them.
 
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The Crimson Universe

Active Member
Sadhguru is all right. He has a very good background, and this ridiculous allegation is the only one issued against him.
His wife, after hearing Sadhguru talk to a saint on the tremondous bliss of Nirvikalpa samadhi, developed a passionate interest in it.

Sadhguru was against her wish, because without the prior preparation, enlightenment can result in loss of the body, and had communicated it to her.

However his wife Vijayalakshmi persisted in her wish, and attained Nirvikalpa samadhi, and died in the process, and this was witnessed by people and disciples in their vicinity.

After enlightenment, most people willingly leave the body due to sheer bliss, and only a few, due to previous impressions of compassion, stay behind to teach and mentor other spiritual aspirants and make the path easier for them.

As far as i know, Yogis/Yoginis who attain samadhi and leave their bodies on their own free will are usually buried instead of being cremated.
In her case she was cremated. After her death she was instantly cremated, without waiting for her father to arrive at her funeral rites.

I wonder why jaggi was in such a rush.
To destroy evidence of physical assault?
Who knows.
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
Sadhguru has a world record in his name for planting saplings in his efforts for ecological preservation.

On 17th October, 2006, 256,289 volunteers working on 6284 sites spread across Tamil Nadu planted a record number of 852,587 saplings in a single day.

Over 8 lakh trees planted in one day in TN | India News - Times of India

He has similarly worked and executed other nature related projects in India and around the world and has created awareness on them through his talks and discussion sessions.

I had found his talks on the subject very informative, and got an interesting insight that a certain mountainous region where he and his volunteers had turned into lush forests had also recorded a marked decrease in temperature levels.

This takes a lot of significance considering the unprecedented heatwaves that plagued north India and Pakistan in the last month that scientists attributed to global warming.

Over 2330 people were killed in the 2015 heat wave in India with the majority of them being old people , poor and homeless.
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
As far as i know, Yogis/Yoginis who attain samadhi and leave their bodies on their own free will are usually buried instead of being cremated..

This is true, with the rationale being that their bodies themselves are sources of positive vibes and auspicious energies. Hence they are not cremated in the traditional sense but buried.

In her case she was cremated. After her death she was instantly cremated, without waiting for her father to arrive at her funeral rites.

This is written by some trolls in the internet who have an axe to grind. The police have cleared Sadhguru of any wrong-doing way back in 1997, and there were many witnesses present at the time of Vijayalakshmis's mahasamadhi.

Sadhguru had talked about his wife and there are informative articles on this regard too.

Yogananda and Vivekananda and many other sages and saints, had also left their bodies through an act of will, if you care to read.
 

The Crimson Universe

Active Member
The police have cleared Sadhguru of any wrong-doing way back in 1997, and there were many witnesses present at the time of Vijayalakshmis's mahasamadhi.

In this kali yuga, the cops can be bribed and false witnesses can be purchased. Its all possible if you have power and money. :rolleyes:

Ramakrishna, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, Buddha, Jesus... They all belonged to a completely different category. They walked on foot, they didn't drive superfast off-road bikes with dark sunglasses on like jaggi usually do, nor did they usurp lands illegaly to build ashrams like jaggi did.

Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, Ramakrishna, Trailanga swami, Shirdi sai baba ... they all had minimum clothing on their body, and had minimum posessions ... a true sign of renunciation and at the same time preached many valuable things to the masses. They didn't crave for fame or money.
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
In this kali yuga, the cops can be bribed and false witnesses can be purchased. Its all possible if you have power and money. :rolleyes:

Yeah, but he was not that powerful and rich back then. He belonged to the middle-class. Also he had an excellent relationship with his wife and took her in his adventures in forests and road trips. This is how he and his wife met a saint in a forest and listened to his conversation regarding the bliss of Nirvikalpa samadhi.

Ramakrishna, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, Buddha, Jesus... They all belonged to a completely different category. They walked on foot, they didn't drive superfast off-road bikes with dark sunglasses on like jaggi usually do

Using technology and modern appliances is not a crime or sin.

Such technology was not available in the times of the sages mentioned above who lived as monks.

Both Rama and Krishna however drove chariots and wore regal jewellery and dress befitting their position as kings and householders.


"....nor did they usurp lands illegaly to build ashrams like jaggi did.

If Sadhguru had usurped lands illegally, the police and judiciary would have stripped him of the same. This happens a lot in India, and many rich and powerful had been put to their place.

But considering Sadhguru's track record of converting arid wastelands into forest regions, the government wouldn't mind it even if Sadhguru had usurped some land to his hands, imho, as he would change them into productive lands before the government takes them back.

Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, Ramakrishna, Trailanga swami, Shirdi sai baba ... they all had minimum clothing on their body, and had minimum posessions ... a true sign of renunciation and at the same time preached many valuable things to the masses. They didn't crave for fame or money.

They were sannyasins and not householders. Sadhguru is a householder with a daughter named Radha.

Lahiri Mahasaya, Guru Nanak, Guru Hargobind, King Janaka, Rama and Krishna were examples of enlightened householders.

In Hinduism, the virtuous householder attentive to his spiritual and material duties, is considered superior to the sannyasin or monk.
 
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sayak83

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Premium Member
There are many allegations against him.
Here's an article if anyone's interested-
How Sadhguru built his Isha empire. Illegally

Then there are rumours that he murdered his wife in the 90s.
Sadguru aka Jaggi Vasudev says her death is due to nirvikalpa samadhi but his father-in-law thinks its a murder.
Here's an article -
Did Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev Kill his Wife?

Its a wise thing to do a background check of a so called guru before you start following him.
The claim that Sadhguru's center has encroached on any forest land is incorrect according to Govt's own records that have been made public. There may have been some minor irregularities in buying the land. But land laws are byzantine in India. Some rule, clause or sub-clause in the law books always gets violated somewhere if you are buying or selling any land (that is by design, so that officials can take bribes).
No Land Encroachment Done By Sadhguru's Isha Yoga Center: RTI Reply

I do not have any data on the wife's death case.
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
Even better to visit Him, and get first hand experience. A real Sadhguru is able to Grant you an experience of God. That would do for me

I only go for first hand experience, definitely not some bookish knowledge of others

Yes, a parameter of defining an enlightened master is whether one experiences peace, a rise of prana/chi, as well as a rise in consciousness, in his or her Satsang.

For spiritual seekers, it is the natural rise in consciousness that convinced them that the master is genuine.

Prana/chi rises in the company of an enlightened master, and this is the reason for the healing cases registered by people in the presence of enlightened masters.

As per eastern healing systems, disease arises in the system when there are blocks in the flow of prana or reduced prana levels. Reiki, pranic healing, acupuncture, ayurveda, hatha yoga all deals with the rise in prana for healing.

I have heard stories from my old relatives of an enlightened master who had visited villages in my region in the first half of the previous century. Upon being consulted by the sick, he used to take jackfruit leaves, diffuse his prana in it, and offer it to them to eat. This seemingly simple practice resulted in the healing of the disease for the sick.

Once someone who was sick consulted this master and similarly got a jackfruit leaf. He was however not impressed and lost the leaf out of carelesness, and ate an another jackfruit leaf instead . The next time the master came to the region, he complained about the lack of efficacy of the practice, and the master questioned whether he ate the leaf the master gave. Upon getting a negative answer, the master gave him an another jackfruit leaf, which he made the patient eat on the spot. This resulted in his healing later on.

From this story told by my relatives I deduced that it was the high prana levels natural to an enlightened master that was diffused into the leaf and resulted in the healing process.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
From this story told by my relatives I deduced that it was the high prana levels natural to an enlightened master that was diffused into the leaf and resulted in the healing process
Sai Baba gives devotees vibuthi, that heals. He also says "if you do the vibuthi mantra, you need not even take the vibuthi

Masters go far beyond my understanding. But I know they can heal by their will, without any external matter. Depending on the faith someone has, He seems (to me) to choose which way to let healing happen
 
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