Subduction Zone
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I might not get that asking price for my house when I sold it.
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No, lemme see if I can find it.... ah here we go, let the cringe begin.
I know it's meant to be entertaining, playful, and fun but uggh the cringe is so strong!
I know, I said this much in post #9.
My point was I'll be dead in 10 years or less and I still support recycling, reducing, and finding alternatives for energy.
Economies would destabilize which could lead to civil unrest, and possibly war(s).
You do not strike me as someone that old that you would be thinking about the end being so close.
I too consider recycling, reduction and alternative energy as important.
I am uncertain about that. Of course there is the demographic changes to consider, but given that these would take time, changes could be instituted to ameliorate the impact on the economy. Changes in the market itself might do that.
A lot will depend on the growth rate of other countries as well. If Russia is growing and has room to grow, they may find a reduced US population inviting. However, is it enough to warrant taking on the detrimental aspects of increased population? Would a lower population impact our technological base? What about allies? Even if the US population were reduced, or even that of our allies, the existing relationships might prosper and give us a functional size even if not an actual size.
I have a rare auto-immune disease, compounded by other issues. My heart, lungs, or throat can become paralyzed at any second without warning. My clock is ticking, I just don't know how much time is left on it. I estimate 10 years as the most optimal outcome.
All good questions I don't know the answer to for sure. Anything is possible, but considering how tensions are now, I think the extra burden of a lower population is not going to help.
Sorry to hear that. Not to be unkind, but that does explain the attitude that leaks out of your posts.
I saw a recent interview with Peter Frampton and why he is retiring from the road. He has the auto-immune disease inclusion body myositis and his muscles are degenerating.
I would rather discuss things with people and that would include you, but I will not sweeten my responses to you, just because. That would be disrespectful and condescending in my view. Especially when it turns out you can provide the quality of responses that you have been today. I will also not linger on it or turn your revelation against you. That is equally disrespectful.
I cannot think of any sage words to add here that do not come off sounding condescending to me. I wish you best of luck. I can only say that I have hope for you that things will turn out better than you expect.
If nothing else, you are the first to supply an argument for population growth that I have ever heard. It is not something that I can ignore or wish away now. We may bicker back and forth about the solvency of the argument and its implications in future threads. Right now, I have some reading to do on the subject before then.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sounds like you're too young to remember if at all.
The eco Nazi references started in the 70s not long after the introduction of the green eco flag.
I went through the majority of my childhood in the 70's so you could be right, but I still do not get the meaning of it.
Well to be fair, that because I have a rage issues from being abused as a child, more so than the disease. I try my best to temper my temper, but it doesn't take a lot to set me off, an issue I work on every day, will continue to work on til the end. It is what it is.
I agree and I appreciate that. Truly.
Thank you and again I appreciate it very much!
Some things appear certain about an increasing population....
- Higher density means a higher cost of living.
- Decreased access to natural spaces.
- Loss of those natural spaces & wildlife.
I've heard the argument that having many more people increases our
chances that we'll have more Einsteins. (They seem to always want him.)
But for every Einstein, Plank, Feynman, etc, we'd get a million dullards.
If geniuses were really the goal, a better way would be to scour the planet
for nascent Einsteins who languish in poverty or backwards environments.
Give them the training & opportunity they'd need.
You won't need to get a higher price because the
cost of alternative assets would also decrease.
But there's an easy way around that....
If government expands the money supply faster than the
economy grows, printing fiat currency we'll have inflation.
Hey, they're already doing that!
They just need to be even more irresponsible.
If the change is gradual, we'd easily adapt.
But if the population continues expanding, this would exacerbate
global warming, leading to massive population migration. That
sure sounds worse than coping with a stable or declining population.
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I will keep it all in mind and be thoughtful before I respond, even if I would not sugar coat it. I have no reason to be your enemy even if we cannot agree on everything.
I am interested to know in what capacity you serve in the EPA. If you do not feel like relating that, I will consider it your choice and leave it at that.
Those rank high among the issues that concern me about population growth and excess growth.
When I was 14 and in my first formal biology class, we studied overpopulation and the effects that were seen in rats and a few species of monkey. They were not pleasant to consider. The behavioral responses to overcrowding were particularly unpleasant and in some ways, I wonder if we are not seeing some of that now in the form of human activity highlighted in the news.
Of course, that also assumes that we would find those Einsteins and they would receive the education that would prelude their genius output that saves the day. Even now, there are probably some Einsteins around the world that are cutting wood or hauling water, largely because their culture has decided they were not worthy of further training. Einstein nearly met that fate.
What this says to me is that we have to find some buff geniuses to better represent science in the He Man International competition. No offense to Einstein intended.