samael = satan

[AlexandertheGreat]

I am fed up of Christians calling the devil Lucifer when there is one quote in the old testament total mentioning Lucifer when it refers to a Babylonian king. The Jews know samael as the chief of satans, its time Christians remembered where their holy book came from, the Torah. The thing with Islam is it values all 3 books Torah, Koran and Bible. samael is another name for iblis.

 

[Tumah]

I am fed up of Christians calling the devil Lucifer when there is one quote in the old testament total mentioning Lucifer when it refers to a Babylonian king.

Well that's true.

The Jews know samael as the chief of satans, its time Christians remembered where their holy book came from, the Torah.

The name of the satan is not mentioned in the Written Torah. There's no reason to expect a Christian to know or use it as its part of the Jewish tradition, which they reject.

The thing with Islam is it values all 3 books Torah, Koran and Bible.

The thing with Islam valuing all three books, is that it rejects them believing what is in our possession to be re-written forgeries. So that kind of decreases the value of your statement.

Not that there is any value in valuing more books, otherwise I think Baha'i's got you beat in that regard.

samael is another name for iblis.

Name aside, there are probbaly just as many differences between the Jewish and Islamic versions of satan as there are between the Jewish and Christian one. And probably between the Christian and Islamic one.

 

[AlexandertheGreat]

Well that's true.

The name of the satan is not mentioned in the Written Torah. There's no reason to expect a Christian to know or use it as its part of the Jewish tradition, which they reject.



The thing with Islam valuing all three books, is that it rejects them believing what is in our possession to be re-written forgeries. So that kind of decreases the value of your statement.

Not that there is any value in valuing more books, otherwise I think Baha'i's got you beat in that regard.


Name aside, there are probbaly just as many differences between the Jewish and Islamic versions of satan as there are between the Jewish and Christian one. And probably between the Christian and Islamic one.

The real question is, is samael the name mentioned in the book of Job accusing him?

 

[Tumah]

The real question is, is samael the name mentioned in the book of Job accusing him?

Nope.

 

[AlexandertheGreat]

Nope.

I mean in the Torah?

 

[Tumah]

I mean in the Torah?

Also nope. We have it from the Oral Torah: Talmudic, Midrashic and Kabbalistic literature.