Same word assigned two DIFFERENT meanings?

[McBell]

Man, that is a great question.

I guess whatever the language(s) of the Spirit is/are. It appears at least one is spiritual "Hebrew" and one is spiritual "Greek". It appears there is a 3rd one in the "place of a skull" (human mind/heart?)

They took Jesus, therefore, and He went out, bearing His own cross, to the place called the Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha John 19:17

Therefore many of the Jews read this inscription, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city; and it was written Hebrew, Latin and in Greek John 19:20

Does this language use a single definition for every word?

If you claim it does, then you would have to conclude that god writes different things depending upon whose heart is being written on, right?

 

[Riverwolf]

I understand. That makes sense.

I just believe that God's original words he gave us (in whatever form) do not ever change. I don't believe they can. I am believing they are spiritual and not natural or physical.

The words that man reads and worships do change, however.

Btw, I just "heard" this today while pondering this. His ACTUAL "words" are the ones he wrote on our HEARTS in Gen 3 when we took the law into our minds and "hearts". See Romans 2:15 One he wrote in the "Hebrew" (heart/person) and one he wrote in the "Greek" (heart/person). Both showed up in one "book" (of life?) in the "languages" of "Hebrew" and "Greek".

Ponder that... that is blowing me away.

Not really blowing me away, anymore. I've been there, done that. I consider Paul's concept of "the Law written in the heart" as his way of trying to express his understanding of what we now call empathy.

In any case, I don't believe that any God is free from change. They just change more slowly. If you take the God of the Bible, He started out as an amalgamation of multiple separate Gods: predominately the Canaanite Sky King El, and a local ethnic God who's name is not remembered except in the Tetragrammaton. A slow change, to be sure, but a change nonetheless.

I only believe in a singular entity who is Forever Unchanging, and... She's not the God of the Bible. In fact, She's not a God at all.

 

[rosends]

Honestly, I don't know if this has been answered directly -- I know that Levite has mentioned this fact, but the book of Daniel is written in a combination of Hebrew and Aramaic. The former example of "bara" from Genesis was written in Hebrew. In Hebrew, those letters mean "he created." In Aramaic the same characters mean something else, field. It isn't the same word any more than the English word "soy" means the same as the Spanish word "soy." And it is in Daniel 2:38 (and 4:9, 12 and 18). In 4:11, the letters which in Hebrew mean "soldier" mean "loud" in Aramaic. I can get you etymologies if you want.

 

[Kolibri]

Honestly, I don't know if this has been answered directly -- I know that Levite has mentioned this fact, but the book of Daniel is written in a combination of Hebrew and Aramaic. The former example of "bara" from Genesis was written in Hebrew. In Hebrew, those letters mean "he created." In Aramaic the same characters mean something else, field. It isn't the same word any more than the English word "soy" means the same as the Spanish word "soy." And it is in Daniel 2:38 (and 4:9, 12 and 18). In 4:11, the letters which in Hebrew mean "soldier" mean "loud" in Aramaic. I can get you etymologies if you want.

Thank-you. I didn't not think to check to see if it was an Aramaic word.

 

[we-live-now]

Does this language use a single definition for every word?

If you claim it does, then you would have to conclude that god writes different things depending upon whose heart is being written on, right?

I believe he writes his ENTIRE (spiritual) law on our hearts. Jer 31:33, Hebrews 10:16 But, some have a "Hebrew" heart and some have a "Greek" heart and some are "Latin". His Spirit inside also reveals different parts of his law to us at different times. Sometimes it is death to us and sometimes it is life. Even the "gentiles" or all unbelievers (including those in the Church) have the work of the law written on their hearts. Romans 2:15.

I believe the original words of scripture reveal we all existed before time with him and we all have different "callings" while in the body (of death). The more we die, the more life we get to see and experience. God's ways are opposite ours. Once we fully "die" we are with him again (but the full truth is we never left him, we just couldn't SEE him)

He IS the perfect law and he appears as "death" to us. He looks like a "serpent" from our natural minds.

His Spirit is the Living Word that resides within us and is the Spirit of truth that reveals to us all things. 1 John 2:27.

 

[we-live-now]

It would be impossible, unless we're talking about using something like mathematical logic or computer code, in which case it would just be completely useless.

Bingo.

I just found out recently that each letter of Biblical Hebrew has an actual number value assigned to it and is very precise and unchanging. Each of the letters can add up to specific number and the words in a sentence to a number. God's true word is more like a precise decimal than a written word of language we are used it.

Hebrew numerals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I found this guys site today and he has been studying this for a while (I haven't read much).

http://www.theomatics.com/struct.html

What I keep finding is amazing and hope to be sharing on my blog soon. I am beginning to believe that what we call "Hebrew" is not the actual true form of his original "Word". It is part of the (spiritual) "Earth" of Gen 1:2+ that lacks (true) "form" but points to the living Word inside us all who is his Son.

 

[Skwim]

Bingo.

I just found out recently that each letter of Biblical Hebrew has an actual number value assigned to it and is very precise and unchanging. Each of the letters can add up to specific number and the words in a sentence to a number. God's true word is more like a precise decimal than a written word of language we are used it.

Hebrew numerals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I found this guys site today and he has been studying this for a while (I haven't read much).

http://www.theomatics.com/struct.html

What I keep finding is amazing and hope to be sharing on my blog soon. I am beginning to believe that what we call "Hebrew" is not the actual true form of his original "Word". It is part of the (spiritual) "Earth" of Gen 1:2+ that lacks (true) "form" but points to the living Word inside us all who is his Son.

I've got a bridge in Brooklyn, New York you may be interested in buying. Care to take a look?

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Bingo.

I just found out recently that each letter of Biblical Hebrew has an actual number value assigned to it and is very precise and unchanging.

That's true of Greek, Latin, hell most languages. We just happened to have stolen the Arabic alphabet for our number system.

 

[rosends]

Bingo.

I just found out recently that each letter of Biblical Hebrew has an actual number value assigned to it and is very precise and unchanging. Each of the letters can add up to specific number and the words in a sentence to a number. God's true word is more like a precise decimal than a written word of language we are used it.

Hebrew numerals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Before you get too excited over this, understand that the number value assigned is actually not precise and changes in many cases. Final letter forms, plus different numbering systems allow for a few different systems of gematriot and the general use of these, as a method of almost whimsical exegetical explication allows for a loose math, with words close to each other being connected though their values are not identical.

 

[McBell]

I believe he writes his ENTIRE (spiritual) law on our hearts. Jer 31:33, Hebrews 10:16 But, some have a "Hebrew" heart and some have a "Greek" heart and some are "Latin". His Spirit inside also reveals different parts of his law to us at different times. Sometimes it is death to us and sometimes it is life. Even the "gentiles" or all unbelievers (including those in the Church) have the work of the law written on their hearts. Romans 2:15.

I believe the original words of scripture reveal we all existed before time with him and we all have different "callings" while in the body (of death). The more we die, the more life we get to see and experience. God's ways are opposite ours. Once we fully "die" we are with him again (but the full truth is we never left him, we just couldn't SEE him)

He IS the perfect law and he appears as "death" to us. He looks like a "serpent" from our natural minds.

His Spirit is the Living Word that resides within us and is the Spirit of truth that reveals to us all things. 1 John 2:27.

So we are right back to square one with interpretation.

Seems you are chasing your tail.