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San Bernardio Shootings

esmith

Veteran Member
Seems that another mass shooting has happened. I received an alert a 12:47PM MST about it. At the present time there are multiple casualties. Reports indicate that there were up to 3 masked shooters possibly wearing body armor. The shooters as of 3:10PM MST are still on the loose.
Update. As of 3:15PM there are 14 dead and shooters are still on the loose.
 

Wirey

Fartist
It looks like a group unaffiliated with the home (they help developmentally handicapped people) rented a room, and they were the ones shot. No word on who they were yet.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Terrorism is really hitting home for me, as San Bernardino is the next city, about ten miles away, and the shot out SUV and the suspect search is actually going on right now in my city only about three miles away.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Terrorism is really hitting home for me, as San Bernardino is the next city, about ten miles away, and the shot out SUV and the suspect search is actually going on right now in my city only about three miles away.

Far as I knew, they weren't sure what the motive was yet...has that changed?
(Not too much on the news here yet)
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Pulled out of my street to go eat and there's a column of police vehicles, about 20 including two SWAT armoured vehicles, and flashing lights on the next street over, when I came home I decided to take the other way and there's flashing police light just up the other street next to mine. Now they are saying they only have one suspect in custody which means the other suspect they shot and killed was evidently not the suspect they were looking for???

Our media is calling it terrorism, just they do not know if its domestic or international terrorism, but that that distinction doesn't mean much to the victims, they have been terrorized.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Yeah but initially they were saying they had all three suspects, then two dead, one on the loose, now one in custody, two still missing. Which makes me think some of those two dead were not the perpetrators.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
What's not clear is whether they have identified him as the dead shooter, or whether he is just a suspect, all told it does not look good for this not being terrorism. Its still closed off up the street from me, there was a bomb threat, and the supposed residence of one of the shooters. One of my friends lives right across the street from this and is locked in his house, not even allowed to come out and watch by the police.
 

averageJOE

zombie
What's not clear is whether they have identified him as the dead shooter, or whether he is just a suspect, all told it does not look good for this not being terrorism. Its still closed off up the street from me, there was a bomb threat, and the supposed residence of one of the shooters. One of my friends lives right across the street from this and is locked in his house, not even allowed to come out and watch by the police.
We may disagree on ideas, but please keep safe!!!
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Thank you Joe, I just went to Denny's to get away from it all, one end of my street looked like it was cut off so I went the other way, when I came home just now, The TV news crew were all parked on my street (including two from ABC) and they were doing an interview with some young guy on the corner of my street.

Its making me rethink this thing that terrorism will not affect me directly, and also for all the bad things cops do, where would we be without them in a situation like this? Also at Denny's the waitress said half the customers, including two I talked to were people locked out of their houses in Police barricades of neighborhoods. I'm sure Paris was much worse, but this is scary. The one guy I talked to lived where the SUV was stopped said bullets were whizzing everywhere, and they were mostly coming for the cops, who were aiming at the SUV seemingly unconcerned with who was on the other side of the SUV, in this case people's houses with people in them. Its a miracle if no one got hit by stray bullets.
 
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ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Some witness, tidbits and "trivia" related to the San Bernardino Islamic terrorists attack, before they may "disappear" into the bowls of political correctness:

* I read and heard his name Syed Farook within less than an hour after the terrorist attack, first spelled "Said Farook" when it hit the right-wing forums very soon after the terrorism, then more but misspelling it "Sayed Farouk" and "Farooq", all in about 45 minutes later after the first "Said Farook" - how did they know? The answer is from the posters themselves who were in live threads on the active event ongoing, who were tapped into the entire County and police dispatches and calls and communications via scanners and special devices that can pickup the dispatches off the normal ranges. The name was picked up by them right away from police communications then posted, but misspelled, they also later picked up the name of "a female" but misspelled and mangled the pronunciation as taz-fin, they correctly identfied the second shooter as female WAY before the public knew. In addition, they noticed the vehicle was driving way slower than should be in a "high speed chase" and guessed "they seem to be unfamiliar" with a street they were on. They even put up a link on the internet to listen live to the police communications, this was shutdown (probably for good reason) about 15 minutes later. Not advocating these sort of monitorings, but it does show the authorities knew a huge amount very early - I think Obama knew too, the Obama administration is going to do everything to spin this as work place violence and without doubt use the toadies in government class "investigative" department to try to grab, seize and silence evidence otherwise for cover-yer-*** political agendas. But it is too late, and the local police agencies will not cooperate. And I was reading this guys employment records about 2 hours after the events from these right-wingers, the fact is nothing much can be "untouchable" in this day and age as the "know how" is well established among the "non-government" public so f.y.i.... They also, correctly, communicated that it appears there are 2 suspects, not 3, even though 3 would make things more dicey, that in fact there is no police confirmations that "gopro" cameras were being carried, it is a false report, but later indeed that bombs were found, today we know the terrorists were making IED's with the ability to be setoff remotely. It was, frankly, uncredible how fast these right-wingers had the full dope and how accurate they were. Again, I am not advocating such monitoring and tip offs, after all any other terrorists mught make use of such information - but their tech savey skills were proven. In addition, one right-wing AM local radio show had one of their gopher find the guy's internet presence and shared links of the guys circle to others who had Islamic terrorist links shared. Then these sites "disappeared" within 15 minutes later - suddenly the links didn't work - all hours before the public would first hear of such things. Of course, today, we have the police and other agencies statung the terrorist was in communications with known terrorist while in Saudi Arabia (doesn't mean Saudi's, in fact probably not Saudi's but while in Saudi Arabia in contact with Yemen, elsewhere) .... I also heard one of them had a Pakistani Passport even though the woman, his wife from Saudi Arabia, was not from Pakistan. If that is true - and I have good trust in the conservative sourcing of this tidbit - I think this is important and needs more revelation. Also, even though it is now known that she was shooting at the police while the guy was driving the SUV, there were live reports that at times the SUV was driving "way too slow" for a "high speed chase" and as some right-wungers commented: "the female might be from Saudi Arabia, they don't teach the women to drive". Perhaps she was a new driver indeed, they may have been taking turns or something, but the Saudi angle was an amazing comment - it turned out to be true, that he got his wife in Saudi Arabia.

* The employees recently had active shooter/terror assault/bombing threat training, I heard this mentioned by one of the persons present who was being interviewed - did this Muslim who was pre-planning some terrorist attack consider this "taking sides"?

My gut is, the guy wasn't ISIS (directly, though he was inspired by many such terror organizations), but rather in communication with operatives of the former Bin Laden group known generally as Al Qaeda. This Islamic terrorist attack will further lock-in the Republican victory for President.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Apparently your information is not so accurate, his wife was from Pakistan, but living in Saudi Arabia when he met her. She has a Pakistani name.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
It is now known that Tashfeen Malik was born in Pakistan... that explains the Pakistani passport. Looks like my wife was right when she said immediately as she heard the name of this terrorist, "She's Pakistani". Why, I asked? Malik - the name is common in Pakistan and India.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
I agree with the Republicans, with light on the information of this terrurist's wife, that the Obama administration release the immigration records of these two terrorists to Congress and the public, along with the other terrorists to Congress.

Sens. Ted Cruz (R., Texas) and Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.) claimed the Obama administration has failed to comply with a request for immigration records of 72 recent terrorists found to be in the United States.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Actually, that still would be helpful for half the picture if the Obamanists would cooperate, but I bet they really don't know jack about the other half because they pretty much just let them in at face value and figure they will vote Democrat hopefully in time for the 2016 election.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
These terrorists cached weapons and explosives. In addition to his wife having a Pakistani passport, Farooka was a 28-year-old U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent.
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
There is something fundamentally wrong with the Islamic circles who "preach" to the heads of this guy and others, doesn't matter how nice they sound, then later they easily get inspired and influenced by radical Islam. This guy was a Cal State San Bernardino graduate, albeit from a broken Chicago Islamic family whose father would beat women. But he did this. Caching IEDs, this is crazy stuff. Heck, I almost wonder if the Professors at Cal State converted him to radical Islamic politics, they sure hate Israel and many are anti-semitic.

Actually, now that I think about it, maybe it wasn't some mosque or internet or people he met in Saudi of Yemeni background or that thing that converted him to radical Islam, maybe it was Cal State San Bernardino professors. Has Congress or the FBI started looking into this terrorists background at Cal State and influence of crazy professors and their hate America-pro Islamic nutjob hate Israel politics brainwashing or influence? The root of this might be Cal State.
 
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ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Malika gal pledged allegence to ISIS - this isn't a rumor anymore, it is a fact. It is all over the news, now. There was a lot of terrorist planning here.

This monster drops her kid off and then goes and mass murders? My God, freak lady... I think this little child needs to be given to one of the families these freaks tried to kill. And then the child raised by a Jewish family. This would be very "Gandhian" actually. The child she left to go murder others should be adopted by a Jewish family and raised as a Jew. Or a Christian.
 
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