Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Are you a Satanist who isn't a luciferian, a setian who isn't a Satanist, so forth.
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Satanists who aren't Setians, Luciferians who aren't Satanists, etc.
- Thread starter Desert Snake
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Ahanit
Active Member
Please excuse me when I ignore Sirius Star, but I find no sense in the posts...
To the original Question:
I am Setian, I studied Satanism and Luciferian Like I have studied, Wicca and druidism and Gnosticism and Hermetic and Kabballa and.........
I am only Setian because the Setian Concept is the one who has included the entirity of Magik with a mythologie Basic I confirm with my own beliefs.
It combines Magic, Sience, Intellect. Who want to be Setian has to Study, to work, to use his Intellect.
To the original Question:
I am Setian, I studied Satanism and Luciferian Like I have studied, Wicca and druidism and Gnosticism and Hermetic and Kabballa and.........
I am only Setian because the Setian Concept is the one who has included the entirity of Magik with a mythologie Basic I confirm with my own beliefs.
It combines Magic, Sience, Intellect. Who want to be Setian has to Study, to work, to use his Intellect.
Liu
Well-Known Member
From the possible choices, satanist only, as that is the most general term and not as bound to a specific worldview as setianism or to specific values as luciferianism. I also consider myself a discordian now and then, and might as well also call myself a shaiva, but that's just because I use a range of concepts to relate to the divine something I call Satan.
Btw, wouldn't that fit better into the same-faith-debates?
Btw, wouldn't that fit better into the same-faith-debates?
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
What are you trying to imply?
Liu
Well-Known Member
And exclude all those of us who don't like the distinction between western and eastern LHP? I didn't want to start that discussion again. I also am not sure whether LHP-only would be that good as there are also RHP-satanists etc. (at least in some definitions of the word RHP...), and as I understand it this thread is for those, too.
It was just an idea to better avoid people of other religions to post here (one did, her posts got deleted in the meantime) and because I wonder what the thread-topic has to do with theological concepts - maybe you could explain that to us, @syncretic?
It was just an idea to better avoid people of other religions to post here (one did, her posts got deleted in the meantime) and because I wonder what the thread-topic has to do with theological concepts - maybe you could explain that to us, @syncretic?
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
What do you mean; that question is hardly implying anything, except from what it states
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Liu
Well-Known Member
It seems a bit too broad for that. It's a question of "what name do you give your religion/deity and why?" and not of "what theological concepts do you connect with that name/religion/deity?". You didn't even ask whether we are theistic, atheistic or something else which would be a basic question of theological concepts imo.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Then what are you exactly stating? Instead of doing a one line post, why not add in more details of what your are trying to imply.
Are you implying someone who is on a different path of the LHP but would instead apply certain things from various paths of the LHP? Such as a Satanist who applies more or less parts of Luciferianism in his own views by doing various things such as synchronizing? Are you also implying a Setian who may perhaps still adhere to Satanism but does not consider himself a Satanist? Are you also implying eclecticism playing a key role in your post, such as someone who applies various traditions?
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
All three of these things are mutually exclusive.. except maybe luciferian because those guys are literally all over the map. Pretty much anything can be luciferianism.
Liu
Well-Known Member
I don't consider it a problem. You can have deities and even venerate them without believing in their literal existence. Whether that's still atheism is a matter of definition. And I wouldn't claim satanism to be atheistic or otherwise, it depends on the satanist in question.
I could, but your first post didn't ask for such.
And, I don't really know. I believe that the concepts I connect with Satan have some truth-value in regard to reality - but whether they are literally true or just metaphorically, and whether this something is a deity or just simply existence, who knows.
Many Setians and also Luciferians seem to consider themselves Satanists - and I would agree with that. As I mentioned above, I consider that the most broad of the terms.
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
Michael Aquino..you might know him as the fella that claims set came to him in a vision and told him to create a temple of set, which he did, would (and has) argue at length that setians are anything but satanists. Since he invented the thing, it would be hard to overrule for the 'official line ' of 'setianism. Also, he gets right pissed when you call it 'setianism' but idgaf. 
Also, he gets right pissed when you call it 'setianism' but idgaf.
I would prefer to call it Setianism[emoji855]
Satans_Serrated_Edge
Deicidal
Just saying..just like every other religion, you don't need to know jack sh#t about it to call yourself one.