Satanists who aren't Setians, Luciferians who aren't Satanists, etc.

[1137]

Hardly lol. I am merely a student of the game.

I am no fan of Aquino to be sure, but credit where it is due - the man invented the thing you now follow.

That's crazy, he must he a good 7,000 years old!

Enlightening as always, SSE.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Do you think the Set of 'Setianism' in any way reflects the Set of ancient Egyptian kemetic religion?

 

[EtuMalku]

I had to choose 'Other / Explain' because I am Mercuræn (so is Crossfire but she doesn't like to admit it )
By the way, the Temple of Set refer to it as Setian philosophy

 

[EtuMalku]

Michael Aquino..you might know him as the fella that claims set came to him in a vision and told him to create a temple of set, which he did, would (and has) argue at length that setians are anything but satanists. Since he invented the thing, it would be hard to overrule for the 'official line ' of 'setianism. Also, he gets right pissed when you call it 'setianism' but idgaf.

That's a pretty shallow and ignorant misunderstanding of the Temple of Set . . . but coming from you it's the norm I guess

 

[EtuMalku]

Do you think the Set of 'Setianism' in any way reflects the Set of ancient Egyptian kemetic religion?

Do you know anything about the Cults of Set from Pre-Dynastic Khemet?

 

[1137]

Do you think the Set of 'Setianism' in any way reflects the Set of ancient Egyptian kemetic religion?

Very much so! Hell, a Wikipedia reading could show you that, let alone some of the most respected works on Set like Seth: God of Confusion.

 

[crossfire]

I had to choose 'Other / Explain' because I am Mercuræn (so is Crossfire but she doesn't like to admit it )
By the way, the Temple of Set refer to it as Setian philosophy

I have Mercury symbols ☿ in both my title and in my religion label!

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

That's a pretty shallow and ignorant misunderstanding of the Temple of Set . . . but coming from you it's the norm I guess

Well, I'll make sure to let him know he was wrong about that thing he invented.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Very much so! Hell, a Wikipedia reading could show you that, let alone some of the most respected works on Set like Seth: God of Confusion.

Perhaps you should read a little deeper. The TOS doctrine bears very little similarity to what we know of kemetic religion, outside of some borrowed words.

 

[EtuMalku]

I have Mercury symbols ☿ in both my title and in my religion label!

Well, I'll make sure to let him know he was wrong about that thing he invented.

Please do and please share Dr. Aquino's reply . . . it should be at the very least entertaining in regards to your idiocy.

Perhaps you should read a little deeper. The TOS doctrine bears very little similarity to what we know of kemetic religion, outside of some borrowed words.

Let's correct that shall we?
"The TOS doctrine bears very little similarity to what I know of kemetic religion, outside of some borrowed words."

 

[1137]

Perhaps you should read a little deeper. The TOS doctrine bears very little similarity to what we know of kemetic religion, outside of some borrowed words.

I'm not a member of the ToS. Never have been or will be.

 

[Desert Snake]

I put all three but also Setian only. Imo opinion satanists grow into Luciferian, who then grow into Setians. Growth implies that the Satanism and Luciferianism stay with you and build into the Setianism though.

I really am just not following that logic. The 'connection' of the three, is not solid, /if there is any/, and the concepts ,can involve wildly different ideas and deities, what not. 'Set', is an Egyptian deity, there is no necessary connection to Luciferianism, or Satanism, here..in my opinion.

 

[1137]

I really am just not following that logic. The 'connection' of the three, is not solid, /if there is any/, and the concepts ,can involve wildly different ideas and deities, what not. 'Set', is an Egyptian deity, there is no necessary connection to Luciferianism, or Satanism, here..in my opinion.

Satan is a title meaning adversary, and Set was the adversary of Horus/God/the natural order. Lucifer is a title meaning light bearer, and Set is the god who gifted us with consciousness. I fail to see the confusion.

 

[Desert Snake]

Satan is a title meaning adversary, and Set was the adversary of Horus/God/the natural order. Lucifer is a title meaning light bearer, and Set is the god who gifted us with consciousness. I fail to see the confusion.

So, word similarity, or what? What do ''Satan'' and Set, have in common?

 

[Ahanit]

A little Missunderstanding often Read... Bad boys are better for selling Stories: But Set is not the Adversary of Heru he is his Tester, Heru the Elder was not Able to stand the tests so he was not Able to govern the two dark lands, nor was Wsir... Heru the Younger has passed the Test and was able to govern the Two Dark Lands as one - Kemet

He is not a Contrary to any god.... The contrary, the Adversary for Egypt Gods is Apep the one who was not created by will, so his real name is not known to any being but himself.

 

[1137]

So, word similarity, or what? What do ''Satan'' and Set, have in common?

What? "Satan" and "Lucifer" mean "adversary" and "light-bearer" in Hebrew and Latin respectively. They are titles given to numerous different entities and archetypes throughout history. Set as a satan and and lucifer, if you want to use those terms. Yet Set itself is a specific, agreed upon entity, making Setianism more than the sum of satansim and luciferianism.

 

[crossfire]

The Prince of Darkness, in a certain symbolic/mythological chronology; known as Satan, becomes the Adversary of "God" and in his personification as Lucifer/Prometheus enlightened the mind of man through the Black Gift, and in his most ancient semblance of the Egyptian god Set, whose name ultimately means the Separator or Isolator, separated and isolated man, through the Gift of the Black Flame, from "God" and/or the rest of the cosmic inertia. Hence, "Set-ting" mankind apart, distinct, and unbound; free to move and think in accordance with his own mind and will, free from and in defiance of the laws of the order of the cosmos. This is the very essence of the spiritual path of most resistance known as the Left-Hand Path.

Separating the sacred from the profane is a behaviour we see repeated throughout the history of religions. Carl Jung says that which is not consciously realized will be unconsciously projected outwards symbolically. This might be an argument that such religious behaviour of separating the sacred from the profane is a failure to recognize and appreciate the wonderousness of ones own subjective cognition (sentience.)

 

[Adramelek]

Separating the sacred from the profane is a behaviour we see repeated throughout the history of religions. Carl Jung says that which is not consciously realized will be unconsciously projected outwards symbolically. This might be an argument that such religious behaviour of separating the sacred from the profane is a failure to recognize and appreciate the wonderousness of ones own subjective cognition (sentience.)

It is through our subjective cognition, made possible by our non-natural sentience, that we are able to see, recognize, and appreciate the beauty of the objective universe, the natural world around us.

 

[Sutekh]

'Set', is an Egyptian deity, there is no necessary connection to Luciferianism, or Satanism, here..in my opinion.

You are wrong, in Luciferianism from which I have gathered and applied to my practice, they do primarily snchronize various pantheons whether it is Egyptian or Babylonian etc. This includes perhaps Satanism as well, I have heard that some Satanists may perhaps snchronize as well such as Enki etc.

 

[Sutekh]

So, word similarity, or what? What do ''Satan'' and Set, have in common?

They are both separate deities or archetypes in my opinion, of course many people may say that Set became Satan through Judeo Christianity itself.