Saudi Arabia offers to build 200 mosques in Germany for refugees

[Sabour]

But I don't get answers. At least not from Muslims.
The Islamic world is an enormous place and tons of cash flows into it. I see no reason for Muslims to choose going to places as completely non Muslim as the USA except that they realize that we have a better culture than Islam creates.

I would not have any problem with that if Muslims didn't then try to make their new homes like the places that they left. But they do.
Tom


ETA. We cross posted.

It is not about Islam here. There are trillion other variables in place. Arab countries has so many political problems. Countries are corrupted. I am speaking generally not about a specific country. Some people are just looking for a way out.

You expect to find an answer to your question which would say well it is because of religion where this is not the case. There are many things to take into consideration.

 

[columbus]

The Syrians used to live the western style of life in their own homeland, the Saudis and the others used to visit Syria for entertainment,

So Syrian people already realised that western secular culture is better than Islamic culture? Saudis too?

Why do you think that they believe that?
And why do so many other Muslims try to undermine the culture? Like when they shoot cartoonists or blow up office buildings or demonstrate against free speech or create Sharia courts in Great Britain?
Tom

 

[FearGod]

So Syrian people already realised that western secular culture is better than Islamic culture? Saudis too?

Why do you think that they believe that?
And why do so many other Muslims try to undermine the culture? Like when they shoot cartoonists or blow up office buildings or demonstrate against free speech or create Sharia courts in Great Britain?
Tom

It isn't which culture is better but it is the modern life, the Syrian modern life is more to the west than to Saudi Arabia, the same to
Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt and many other states, Saudi Arabia and Iran are exceptions.

 

[Father Heathen]

I would rather they build housing, schools (by Germany's public/secular standards, of course), hospitals, greenhouses for food, etc.

You know, something actually useful.

 

[columbus]

It isn't which culture is better but it is the modern life, the Syrian modern life is more to the west than to Saudi Arabia, the same to
Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt and many other states, Saudi Arabia and Iran are exceptions.

I don't understand what you are saying.
In modern life muslims are fleeing Islamic places. That is modern life. They don't want to go to Pakistan or Iran. They want to go to the west.

Then they want to make those places Muslim. Even though they just escaped from Muslims.

In what way are KSA and Iran exceptions? Algeria and Indonesia and Pakistan don't want Muslim refugees either.
Tom

 

[Godobeyer]

columbus i guess this is fake information media , the anti-Islam make it .

they are suppose consider refugees , it's up to Western countries to make them as immigrates or not .I mean stay temporary or stay forever .

i prefer if the War stop , they comeback .

 

[Milton Platt]

thanks for tag me

i am not trust in this joke link , if that true , Saudi Arabia could help to stop war and supporting terrorists (ISIS) and Alnusrah first , then compensate them for souls and re-build thier homes . or build to them buildings in host countries .

the West always shout with human rights and freedom , give lessons on !


the West (with his followers Kings of oil ) had reponsibility in war in Iraq and Syria and Libya , so they had responsibility for causing the refugees criss by supporting "rebels" which 90% actualy are ISIS and al-Nusrah .

the refugees aim West because it's for some people is dream land . or it's better place in weather or rights/freedom .

We can disagree on many things but yes, It is amazing how short the collective (and especially the political) memory of the West can be.

 

[FearGod]

I don't understand what you are saying.
In modern life muslims are fleeing Islamic places. That is modern life. They don't want to go to Pakistan or Iran. They want to go to the west.

Then they want to make those places Muslim. Even though they just escaped from Muslims.

In what way are KSA and Iran exceptions? Algeria and Indonesia and Pakistan don't want Muslim refugees either.
Tom

Dubai is a Muslim country but life is different than in Saudi Arabia,

People differ in which way of life they want to live, some prefer conservative culture and
some others prefer the liberal ones.

 

[columbus]

People differ in which way of life they want to live, some prefer conservative culture and
some others prefer the liberal ones.

I realise this.
What I am pointing out is that millions of Muslims are fleeing Muslim violence. And they all seem to want to leave the Muslim world completely.

The facts are right out there in front of Allah and everybody. Muslims by the million are running to non Muslim places as fast as they can. They are not going to Pakistan or Algeria or Indonesia. The super rich Muslims like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and Qatar refuse to accept any to amount to anything.

This tells everyone a great deal about Islam.
Tom

 

[columbus]

columbus i guess this is fake information media , the anti-Islam make it .

Why do you guess this?
It might be true, I don't know.

Hundreds of thousands of Muslims are trying desperately to reach the west. If that many people are trying to get to Algeria I hadn't heard about it. If the Saudis are providing as much help as the Germans, I hadn't heard about it.

The USA already has over 10,000,000 third world refugees living here. Non citizens, with no authorization from anyone. Why should we take more from Syria when the Muslim world that they are native to don't want them?
Tom

 

[Godobeyer]

Why do you guess this?
It might be true, I don't know.

it's very very probly fake , just made by anti-Islam or anti-Muslim refugees .
to provoke you .

Hundreds of thousands of Muslims are trying desperately to reach the west. If that many people are trying to get to Algeria I hadn't heard about it. If the Saudis are providing as much help as the Germans, I hadn't heard about it.

Algeria hosting refugees from Syria and Africa (Niger and Mali ) and Sahara Occidental (occupied by Moroco) , it's may their political choices , Algeria is with Syria regime against rebels/terrorists .

I upset that my country did not host much Syrians, i am guess it's because our economy is based on oil prices .

Algeria warned the West if Gadafi falls , Libya will turned to base of terrorists in North Africa , who listened ?

The USA already has over 10,000,000 third world refugees living here. Non citizens, with no authorization from anyone. Why should we take more from Syria when the Muslim world that they are native to don't want them?
Tom

that's big number

I am against citizenship the refugees , i am with back them to their homeland , when war stops .

rich Muslim countries (Kings of oil ) are the responsible for their pain , how they suppose to host them ?

they may affraid from revenge .

 

[columbus]

it's very very probly fake , just made by anti-Islam or anti-Muslim refugees .
to provoke you .

Maybe that's true. It would seem easy to find out. Did the Saudi government announce this, or not? The OP says that they did, nobody has said that it is not true(with a link).

It sounds like something that they would do. But I don't claim to know.
Tom

 

[FearGod]

I realise this.
What I am pointing out is that millions of Muslims are fleeing Muslim violence. And they all seem to want to leave the Muslim world completely.

The facts are right out there in front of Allah and everybody. Muslims by the million are running to non Muslim places as fast as they can. They are not going to Pakistan or Algeria or Indonesia. The super rich Muslims like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and Qatar refuse to accept any to amount to anything.

This tells everyone a great deal about Islam.
Tom

Lebanon, Jordan , Turkey among others have opened their lands for the refugees.

 

[Godobeyer]

Maybe that's true. It would seem easy to find out. Did the Saudi government announce this, or not? The OP says that they did, nobody has said that it is not true(with a link).

It sounds like something that they would do. But I don't claim to know.
Tom

ALL we get fooled

this is fake news , i checked , it's just claims had no credible sources in Arabic sources (especialy Saudi one)

 

[columbus]

Lebanon, Jordan , Turkey among others have opened their lands for the refugees.

Why are millions trying to get to Europe? Why not large Muslim countries like Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, and Iran?
Tom

 

[Sees]

Maybe that's true. It would seem easy to find out. Did the Saudi government announce this, or not? The OP says that they did, nobody has said that it is not true(with a link).

It sounds like something that they would do. But I don't claim to know.
Tom

Quite a few news stories on it, including ones about Richard Dawkins opinion of the offer.

 

[MD]

This whole situation reminds me of this scene from The Wire

 

[FearGod]

Why are millions trying to get to Europe? Why not large Muslim countries like Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, and Iran?
Tom

Turkey,Jordan and Lebanon are already overloaded with the refugees.

 

[columbus]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-arabia-pledge-build-200-mosques-syrian-refugees-germany-1519298

It looks like the "International Business Times" is the sort of "news" source that creates trouble by publishing sensational but untrue stories.
Tom

 

[columbus]

Turkey,Jordan and Lebanon are already overloaded with the refugees.

I'm not talking about them. They are next door neighbor countries and they are doing a lot.
I'm talking about all the other, much larger countries with overwhelmingly Muslim population. Why don't Muslims want to go there?
Tom