saudi man asking some questions ..

[Jumi]

I believe stereotypes exist because they are often (not always) true.

I've been exposed to various and contradictory stereotypes about Americans. I've met and discussed with Americans most of who didn't make a good fit with any of these stereotypes. Do you think the same could be true of other stereotypes? How many Middle-Easterners have you talked with?

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

I've been exposed to various and contradictory stereotypes about Americans. I've met and discussed with Americans most of who didn't make a good fit with any of these stereotypes. Do you think the same could be true of other stereotypes? How many Middle-Easterners have you talked with?

Very few. An American stereotype is that we are fat and lazy. While many Americans are neither fat or lazy, America has the largest percentage of obese people, moreso than any other country. Is the stereotype always true? No. Based on truth? Yes.
Americans generally speaking see middle easterners flying planes into buildings, beheading people, in constant internal and external war and turmoil. Americans as a whole don't care for Middle Easterners or Muslims. That being said, I am sure there are plenty of good ones out there. But the stereotype didn't just get pulled out of thin air.

 

[Jumi]

was einstein and darwin crazy people ?

No, but I don't see what they have to do with this.

isn't there a possibility that a some mysterious country created a computer that control our minds and send waves loaded with thoughts to our brains ?

I doubt it, besides many other things we wouldn't be able to clear our minds in meditation if it were true.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Sorry to learn of your depression. The world is full of religious myths which does Not help with any depressed state.
I hope you will Not give up on the Holy Bible as a possible helping aid. Can you think of a teaching of Jesus that is depressing?

Huh? I'm not a Christian.

 

[Jumi]

Very few. An American stereotype is that we are fat and lazy. While many Americans are neither fat or lazy, America has the largest percentage of obese people, moreso than any other country. Is the stereotype always true? No. Based on truth? Yes.

These stereotypes are out of date. The stereotype I've seen more is that Americans are hard working, working two or three jobs sometimes trying to get through college at the same time. I considered sharing some more negative stereotypes but I fail to see the use. Fat American also no longer fits either since people are eating McDonalds everywhere.

The other stereotypes are not so flattering. Think about some negative news involving your country and exaggerate them a bit and you might find some of them.

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

These stereotypes are out of date. The stereotype I've seen more is that Americans are hard working, working two or three jobs. I considered sharing some more negative stereotypes but I fail to see the use. Fat American also no longer fits either since people are eating McDonalds everywhere.

The other stereotypes are not so flattering. Think about some negative news involving your country and exaggerate them a bit and you might find some of them.

Americans are the fattest people in the world. That is both a fact and a stereotype.
Muslims decapitate people.
Jews are frugal.
Asians are good at math.
Dispute those as completely false rumors with sources and facts.

 

[Jumi]

Americans are the fattest people in the world. That is both a fact and a stereotype.

Fat American lost it's edge as a stereotype in 21st century. Why would you call Americans fat when you also see equally obese people on the street in your country?

And Australians are now fattest, it's been on the news for some years.

Dispute those as completely false rumors with sources and facts.

You mean a counterexample would work? There are Jews who are poor, Muslims who would never hurt a fly(a coworker I know is an example of this), Asians who suck at maths.

 

[AmyintheBibleBelt]

Fat American lost it's edge as a stereotype in 21st century. Why would you call Americans fat when you also see equally obese people on the street in your country?

And Australians are now fattest, it's been on the news for some years.


You mean a counterexample would work? There are Jews who are poor, Muslims who would never hurt a fly(a coworker I know is an example of this), Asians who suck at maths.

Ugh! There is always an exception to the rule. You have entirely missed the point.

 

[Jumi]

The point is that you are forming an opinion on a large group of people based on a small sample of news. It's an exaggeration. If you don't understand this, I can give you an example using some fact about America.

 

[Mukkled]

im out : )

 

[Ingledsva]

Nothing that a religious book says, - makes Deity real.

Not only does the Bible say that Jesus' genuine followers would be identified by the self-sacrificing love Jesus had for others - John 13 vs 34,35, but that it is literally seen in Jesus' genuine followers. They follow the commission of Matthew 24:14 to spread the message of the good news of God's kingdom government throughout the earth. That is being done today on an international scale. With the many enemies the Bible has over the many centuries, from within and without, that spreading message would Not be able to be accomplished without divine backing.

And that has WHAT exactly, to do with what I said?

NO religious book saying there is a God, - makes Deity real. It that were the case, - we would have a lot of Gods and Goddesses running around out there.

Your last sentence is not true.

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[InChrist]

Yes, I live with my mom. I have severe depression and am disabled because of it..

I think it is a wonderful thing when family can live together and give each other support. Our modern society sadly seems to discourage and look down on extended family cohesiveness of this kind. On the other hand, it seems to me your depression is so disabling because you continually abandon the love Jesus Christ has for you. I don't know how many times I've seen you on this forum express an understanding of Christ's love and yet so soon after turn your back on Him and embrace the dark and demonic. From my perspective, this is enough to explain the stronghold of demonic depression over your life. I pray you will once and for all find deliverance, peace, and freedom in Christ. I mean this with sincerity.

 

[viole]

hello all.. Okay, just ignore my title because I wanted to make it interesting.. even though it's totally correct :}


I want to ask some questions.. but I need solid answers, I'm terribly uneducated and I don't know anything about religion, and to be honest I don't like the west at all.. I respect some individuals only, and lets say the secularist duds for now, my questions will be about a lot of things and not just religion.. I'm sorry if this not the right place.. I'm a little bit of troll but also so serious about these questions. I don't read and I hate reading. the questions are for everyone , muslims , christians , athiests , budist , and saitnism

..etc .



okay this is my first question :

why should i believe in god ? and why not to believe in god ?

It depends.

The first, diificult, step, is to justify your belief in a supreme power that has no evidence whatsoever of existing. You do not believe in blue fairies, I presume. But why not, since they have the same exact evidence of existing as that supreme power?

The second, even more difficult step, is to justify your belief in a certain brand of that supreme power. What logical reasons can you adduce to your belief in Allah, apart from the fact that you are from Saudi Aarabia and not from Alabama?

Ciao

- viole

 

[NulliuSINverba]

There aren't only two options.

Really?

When it comes to questions of belief regarding any given proposition, it seems that one can either believe in X or not believe in X. What exactly are the other options concerning belief in X?

Many people make this mistake, but Agnosticism is probably your best bet. Since there is insufficient evidence to prove/disprove the existance of any supernatural forces or entities, it would seem most reasonble to answer the question with, "we just don't know yet."

But "we just don't know yet" isn't a belief statement. In fact, it doesn't even seem relevant to the question "Do you believe in X or not?" The question has already forged a dichotomy and it ought to be clear (given the nature of the question) that it isn't a multiple choice proposition.

If there is insufficient evidence (or no evidence) to establish the existence of X, then it seems perfectly logical to say that you don't believe in the existence of X.

For instance ... I'm not agnostic about the Loch Ness Monster. I don't believe in it because there is no evidence that establishes its existence as a matter of fact. If evidence surfaces that suggests otherwise, I'm perfectly free to change my mind. Until then, I see no reason whatsoever to remain undecided regarding belief. My lack of belief in the Loch Ness Monster correlates directly to the lack of evidence of the Loch Ness Monster.

"We just don't know yet" sounds like the proper response to conflicting test results in a blind taste test or a shampoo trial.

In other words, you can go either way, so it might be best to remain undecided.

Hmm. "Best" in what sense?

I've yet to encounter a religion whose deity bothered to make any distinctions regarding belief. If you opt to say "we just don't know yet" then wouldn't you have a rather difficult time differentiating yourself from a disbeliever?

 

[leibowde84]

Really?

When it comes to questions of belief regarding any given proposition, it seems that one can either believe in X or not believe in X. What exactly are the other options concerning belief in X?



But "we just don't know yet" isn't a belief statement. In fact, it doesn't even seem relevant to the question "Do you believe in X or not?" The question has already forged a dichotomy and it ought to be clear (given the nature of the question) that it isn't a multiple choice proposition.

If there is insufficient evidence (or no evidence) to establish the existence of X, then it seems perfectly logical to say that you don't believe in the existence of X.

For instance ... I'm not agnostic about the Loch Ness Monster. I don't believe in it because there is no evidence that establishes its existence as a matter of fact. If evidence surfaces that suggests otherwise, I'm perfectly free to change my mind. Until then, I see no reason whatsoever to remain undecided regarding belief. My lack of belief in the Loch Ness Monster correlates directly to the lack of evidence of the Loch Ness Monster.

"We just don't know yet" sounds like the proper response to conflicting test results in a blind taste test or a shampoo trial.



Hmm. "Best" in what sense?

I've yet to encounter a religion whose deity bothered to make any distinctions regarding belief. If you opt to say "we just don't know yet" then wouldn't you have a rather difficult time differentiating yourself from a disbeliever?

That is a pretty freaking good argument. Let me ponder this for a bit.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Americans are the fattest people in the world. That is both a fact and a stereotype.

Fat American lost it's edge as a stereotype in 21st century. Why would you call Americans fat when you also see equally obese people on the street in your country?

OMG, that was fattest and fat, without S!

I first read it fastest, with S.

I was thinking what the heck does that mean!

Fastest people in the world

 

[Mukkled]

Saying that you don't know and identifying as agnostic is in no way giving up the search. In actuality, agnostics seem to be the most eager to explore the supernatural. They merely aren't ready to accept anything that is not sufficiently supported with evidence. Hard to knock that.

And your analogy is flawed. In your example there were human lives at stake. With belief we have no objecitve reasoning to think that is the case. There is no life on the line. That is why saying, "I'm just not sure yet until I get more information," is a reasonable position.

and im back : )

I know that , i really do ..but not knowing does not justify refusing to know and the knowledge is in front of you .. someone telling you that there is a god and that god contacted them , quran contains a lot of things talking about time and light and that the god him self is time and light , how in heaven did mohammed knew about this ?you see ? there is a lot of evidence in the holy books as there is a lot of mistakes and unreasonable things .

to state something as will , god is a religious idea in its core and not the same as designer , designer could be anything and you dont have to call him god , and he could be dead or vanished or anything , so if you don't believe in religions ,this make you almost an atheist .


life on stake ? i thought i mentioned hill and how you are going to end up in the afterlife .

 

[Tumah]

OMG, that was fattest and fat, without S!

I first read it fastest, with S.

I was thinking what the heck does that mean!

Fastest people in the world

That's right.
0 - 3 km/h in under 7 minutes.

 

[Mukkled]

Really?

When it comes to questions of belief regarding any given proposition, it seems that one can either believe in X or not believe in X. What exactly are the other options concerning belief in X?



But "we just don't know yet" isn't a belief statement. In fact, it doesn't even seem relevant to the question "Do you believe in X or not?" The question has already forged a dichotomy and it ought to be clear (given the nature of the question) that it isn't a multiple choice proposition.

If there is insufficient evidence (or no evidence) to establish the existence of X, then it seems perfectly logical to say that you don't believe in the existence of X.

For instance ... I'm not agnostic about the Loch Ness Monster. I don't believe in it because there is no evidence that establishes its existence as a matter of fact. If evidence surfaces that suggests otherwise, I'm perfectly free to change my mind. Until then, I see no reason whatsoever to remain undecided regarding belief. My lack of belief in the Loch Ness Monster correlates directly to the lack of evidence of the Loch Ness Monster.

"We just don't know yet" sounds like the proper response to conflicting test results in a blind taste test or a shampoo trial.



Hmm. "Best" in what sense?

I've yet to encounter a religion whose deity bothered to make any distinctions regarding belief. If you opt to say "we just don't know yet" then wouldn't you have a rather difficult time differentiating yourself from a disbeliever?

the whole problem is in the system , god " or designer actually " him self is a theory describes the reason behind our existence , stating that human and life cannot be without a maker , like u r walking down the street and you found a dead body on the street , you dont know did someone killed them or did they died due to some accident .

 

[Mukkled]

the duds who talk about the U.S, i say .. please :b