saudi man asking some questions ..

[Mukkled]

There are all kinds of Secret Societies - but the power to manipulate the thoughts in your head, - NO!

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no ? and because u say no this means u r right , if u say no then give me some evedance that this device does not exist cus really i think it does :} .

 

[leibowde84]

and im back : )

I know that , i really do ..but not knowing does not justify refusing to know and the knowledge is in front of you .. someone telling you that there is a god and that god contacted them , quran contains a lot of things talking about time and light and that the god him self is time and light , how in heaven did mohammed knew about this ?you see ? there is a lot of evidence in the holy books as there is a lot of mistakes and unreasonable things .

to state something as will , god is a religious idea in its core and not the same as designer , designer could be anything and you dont have to call him god , and he could be dead or vanished or anything , so if you don't believe in religions ,this make you almost an atheist .


life on stake ? i thought i mentioned hill and how you are going to end up in the afterlife .

What you provided is not evidence, it is merely a statement made by Muhammad that could be true or false. It is not falsifiable, so it only provides evidence if you believe it is true. We have no idea what God is made up of, whether it's time and light or nothing at all.

 

[Mukkled]

What you provided is not evidence, it is merely a statement made by Muhammad that could be true or false. It is not falsifiable, so it only provides evidence if you believe it is true. We have no idea what God is made up of, whether it's time and light or nothing at all.

lets say someone is dead and his hand are going straight to the books shelf in the same direction of book its title " murder " , would u say they think he was killed because someone seeing it this way and connecting stuff ? and there is no other evidence that he had been killed . don't misunderstand me i dont mean islam but all religions as will . also there is a lot of evidence prove that religions are not true . " evolution theory " .

 

[Jumi]

lets say someone is dead and his hand are going straight to the books shelf in the same direction of book its title " murder " , would u say they think he was killed because someone seeing it this way and connecting stuff ? and there is no other evidence that he had been killed .

It could be accident or arranged by someone who came after this person died. He could have been killed by accident and someone want to frame another person using the opportunity.

don't misunderstand me i dont mean islam but all religions as will . also there is a lot of evidence prove that religions are not true . " evolution theory " .

Evolution doesn't prove religions are not true, it just shows that some of them are mistaken about how life is what it is today.

 

[Mukkled]

It could be accident or arranged by someone who came after this person died. He could have been killed by accident and someone want to frame another person using the opportunity.


Evolution doesn't prove religions are not true, it just shows that some of them are mistaken about how life is what it is today.

agree and this the same as my point , after all its not just a coincidence or someone seeing it the way he wants .

 

[leibowde84]

lets say someone is dead and his hand are going straight to the books shelf in the same direction of book its title " murder " , would u say they think he was killed because someone seeing it this way and connecting stuff ? and there is no other evidence that he had been killed . don't misunderstand me i dont mean islam but all religions as will . also there is a lot of evidence prove that religions are not true . " evolution theory " .

All I'm saying is that using scripture as evidence does not get us anywhere. There is no reason why a non-believer would take it seriously.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

like u r walking down the street and you found a dead body on the street , you dont know did someone killed them or did they died due to some accident .

Correct. Which is why the only time to conclude that a murder has occurred is after one reviews the evidence and found that conclusion unavoidable.

 

[Mukkled]

my third question :

is atheism and irreligion weak idea ? will it doesnt give the human being a believe system " which is kind of bad thing " and there is no trust between atheists in general and any religious guy can invade between them so easily and make them turn against each other .