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Saying you're sorry / admitting you're wrong

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I had a bit of an awakening by realizing the greatest awakening a person can have is by admitting they're wrong or saying "I'm sorry."

It also explains why people want to get married.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I admire people who can admit they are wrong. It makes me want to marry them.


Strangest thing, though. Never really have figured it out. Why when I tell them I want to marry them, do they so often clam up and quit admitting they are wrong? You know, it's like I almost know why. But I just can't quite put the last pieces of the puzzle together. Know what I mean?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I had a bit of an awakening by realizing the greatest awakening a person can have is by admitting they're wrong or saying "I'm sorry."

It also explains why people want to get married.

I don't know...
I shouldn't say this but sometimes it is easier to admit being wrong and say you are sorry whether you are wrong or not.

Wife, "Hey you were wrong."
Me, "Ok, I'm sorry." "You were right and I was wrong."
Me, "Uh... what was I wrong about again?"


So people get married so they can be wrong more often and gets to say sorry a lot?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't know...
I shouldn't say this but sometimes it is easier to admit being wrong and say you are sorry whether you are wrong or not.

Wife, "Hey you were wrong."
Me, "Ok, I'm sorry." "You were right and I was wrong."
Me, "Uh... what was I wrong about again?"


So people get married so they can be wrong more often and gets to say sorry a lot?

Ooof. This.

Funnily enough, it causes problems between my wife and I that we have different views on saying sorry.
For me, almost anytime there is a disagreement, both sides are wrong...but obviously not necessarily in the same way, or to the same degree.
My wife thinks in more binary terms about most things, so to her, an argument is someone's fault.

We get to the end of an argument, I apologise quite specifically for something that I can see was my fault, and she takes it as me being at fault for the entirety of the issue.
She doesn't mean it, she's just wired differently.
She'll rarely apologise for much the same reason (although she does apologise when she knows something was entirely her fault, for example when she comes home angry with something that happened at work, and acts poorly towards me).
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
I admire people who can admit they are wrong. It makes me want to marry them.


Strangest thing, though. Never really have figured it out. Why when I tell them I want to marry them, do they so often clam up and quit admitting they are wrong?

Strange. You never offered me a ring.

And I know I'm wrong. When has it ever been so wrong to be so right?

Okay....it will be a Las Vegas wedding.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I spend a lot of time trying to be right. But if I'm wrong I'm wrong. Is being right about admitting wrong?

What if someone is always right? Or they live their whole lives figuring they are right?

Imagine living in total agreeance with someone all the time. What if I'm sorry when I'm right?

Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and say I'm sorry.

Sometimes I'm sorry when other people are wrong.

Like that Elton John song, ' sorry seems to be the hardest words'

To err is human I guess.
 

Eyes to See

Well-Known Member
Who's right, who's wrong? That's where a lot of folk get it wrong. It's not about who is in the right. It's about making the peace. When you have a disagreement/fight/misunderstanding, what not, don't try and justify yourself or prove your partner is in the wrong. Just make peace.

Does it really matter that much? I think it's just too much stubborn pride. Now that I said that it brings back to mind a song...here it is...

 

Hellbound Serpiente

Active Member
I had a bit of an awakening by realizing the greatest awakening a person can have is by admitting they're wrong or saying "I'm sorry."

There's a beautiful lesson i've learned from the Holy Qur'an:

"I swear by this city, Makkah - And you, [O Muhammad], are free of restriction in this city - And [by] the father and that which was born [of him], We have certainly created man into hardship. Does he think that never will anyone overcome him? He says, "I have spent wealth in abundance." Does he think that no one has seen him? Have We not made for him two eyes? And a tongue and two lips? And have shown him the two ways? But he has not broken through the difficult pass. And what can make you know what is [breaking through] the difficult pass? It is the freeing of a slave Or feeding on a day of severe hunger An orphan of near relationship. Or a needy person in misery And then being among those who believed and advised one another to patience and advised one another to compassion. Those are the companions of the right. But they who disbelieved in Our signs - those are the companions of the left. Over them will be fire closed in" --- The Holy Qur'an Surah al-Balad


Anything that goes against our 2nd nature [or our egos] can lead us towards spiritual fulfillment and awakening. Anything. Admitting your wrong and saying sorry are such things, they go against our second nature/our egos. Anything worthwhile is seemingly difficult to do because of the pull of our egos against us [like admitting you wrongs and apologizing], while anything that fulfills our egos is seemingly an easier option because it serves our lowly, base ego.

Take this hypothetical scenario for example --- Imagine you have to do a lengthy college project, you are sitting in the comfort of your home and your favorite tv show is currently on. Tell me something, what would you naturally incline to do? Watch your favorite tv show with your favorite snacks, or complete the strenuous project? Naturally, you'd be more incline to just sit back, relax, watch tv while having your snacks. This is because this satisfy your ego and it's an easier choice. You'd most likely put off the college project in preference to just relaxing in front of tv. However, the college project is more beneficial in the long run and leads towards your growth and progress. This is because this is useful to your spiritual and personal advancement and as such, is seemingly difficult because it starves your ego.

Whenever you are faced with multiple options, the relatively more difficult option is usually more beneficial in the long run. After all, take an upward sloping, ascending road is more strenuous on us as compared to taking downward sloping road. But guess what? Taking the upward sloping, ascending road is what takes us higher towards upwards ascension to greater levels, while downward sloping road leads to downward descend, it leads to devolution. As responsible individual, we should always take the comparatively harder option that'll leads us ascend us higher to greater evolutionary levels while at the same time, we should always positively refuse to take the comparatively easier options that'll lead to our spiritual, physical and other devolution and destruction.

Think about it this way --- What is more difficult, love or hate? Of course love is more difficult, and it takes us on higher level, while hate is easier to do so as we are nothing but advance homosapiens with reptilian mind, it's following your evolutionary programming. What is more difficult, forgiveness or retribution? Again, forgiveness is more difficult but leads to growth and progress, while retribution is easier option that breed destruction of individual and society in general. What is more difficult, being selfless or selfish? Of course, selflessness is more difficult but causes our spiritual growth, while selfishness leads us towards downward descend to our egos slavery. Being loyal is more difficult than being disloyalSimilarly staying patient in crisis and hard times is more difficult thing to do as compared to becoming impatient. And so on

I can talk about this in more detail but the post has already become to lengthy.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
I had a bit of an awakening by realizing the greatest awakening a person can have is by admitting they're wrong or saying "I'm sorry."

It also explains why people want to get married.
"I love you." may be the three words that start a marriage, but "You are right." are the three words that make it successful.
 

MonkeyFire

Well-Known Member
That's alright forgiveness makes you happy. The worse the thing you forgive the more pleasure you get. L
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
I spend a lot of time trying to be right. But if I'm wrong I'm wrong. Is being right about admitting wrong?
"Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want." - Randy Pausch

Admitting to be wrong is the way to being (more) right tomorrow. That's why competitive sports and games like chess or GO build character. Professions like programming act in a similar way. You are wrong often and there is no way to deny it.
So, yes, being right is about having been wrong and admitted it.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I had a bit of an awakening by realizing the greatest awakening a person can have is by admitting they're wrong or saying "I'm sorry."

It also explains why people want to get married.
To be able to say i am sorry, and admitting we are wrong from time to time, show that we have compassion for others :)
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
"Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want." - Randy Pausch

Admitting to be wrong is the way to being (more) right tomorrow. That's why competitive sports and games like chess or GO build character. Professions like programming act in a similar way. You are wrong often and there is no way to deny it.
So, yes, being right is about having been wrong and admitted it.

That rings true! The smartest people know they can be wrong often!

The only place I think I don't ever want to be wrong is in my intentions, and my character.

Judgment on the other hand is easy to get wrong. I think the most innocent people can easily fail at judgment issues; as well as anyone else.

Humility is to try and to err til you get it right. That's why it's wise to preserve knowledge, so we don't have to reinvent the wheel.
 
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