Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
Oh boy. Is there still time to get a new D at the top of the ticket (surely, it must be Harris?). I think so. Please Joe, retire.
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Schiff pulled the pin
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Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Dems would be throwing away the advantages of the incumbent.
Allen Licthman has correctly predicted 9 of 10 previous presidential elections using a 13 point test. He picks Biden who checks 9 of those 13. One of the 13 is incumbency. He predicted Biden's win in 2020, and says Biden will win in 2024.
The 13 Keys
- Party mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections.
- Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination.
- Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president.
- Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign.
- Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.
- Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.
- Policy change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy.
- Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
- Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
- Foreign/military failure: The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.
- Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.
- Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.
- Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.
Meet Allan Lichtman, the professor who predicted the president (and the last 9)
So how does he do it? With a crystal ball? Tarot readings? Ayahuasca retreats in the desert? No, he does it with science.www.usatoday.com
The 13 Keys to the White House
Professor Allan Lichtman's Historic Record of Predicting US Presidential Electionswww.american.edu
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
Yes. Incumbency is a powerful tool/resource.
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
The Dems don't need to prove they're broken. It's bad enough the post-debate rhetoric brings such sharp question.
It's a curious thread title, but not much else.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
Thank you for meeting my expectation (of you). Maybe one day you will have something constructive to contribute, instead of insults and idiocy? I pray.
Be well, brother.
Did you just imply the incumbent, Joe Biden, is a tool?
We Never Know
No Slack
Biden says he might quit presidential race if 'medical condition' emerged
Biden says he might quit presidential race if 'medical condition' emerged
Biden, 81, has come under increasing pressure from members of his own party to withdraw from the race following his disastrous debate with Trump, 78.
And if it rains we might get wet.Biden says he might quit presidential race if 'medical condition' emerged
Biden says he might quit presidential race if 'medical condition' emerged
Biden, 81, has come under increasing pressure from members of his own party to withdraw from the race following his disastrous debate with Trump, 78.www-cnbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org
I would like to think that every single Presidential candidate would have quit the race if they had a serious medical condition that made them unable to do the job.
There is only one Presidential candidate I can think of who would be too egotistical to quit under those conditions. Don't think I need to say who.
We Never Know
No Slack
Lol. Just posting what Biden said. Maybe you should tell him to quit saying it instead of shooting the messenger.
How dare you use that kind of language! Didn't you know we are trying to tone down the rhetoric?
But seriously, I think Biden just gave an answer to a stupid question.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
Unfortunately, IMHO, Biden is too full of himself to do the right thing. God help us.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Good. We need a strong resilient president that dosent quit when things get tough.
If the unthinkable happens and Trump wins the White House again -- and even worse, if Republicans win either House or Senate -- then I tell you this: the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats themselves.
I just watched Nikki Hailey sell her soul to the devil (literally, IMO), as Republicans unite as one behind the most flawed candidate in the history of the nation, and a platform (Project 2025) that will destroy the America envisioned by the Founders.
But Democrats don't have the spine to get behind their man and stay there. (The problem started earlier, as @Revoltingest reminded me some days ago, when Biden and his issues were kept hidden away from primary voters -- but since that happened, the only hope remaining was to get behind him en masse, and stay there, defending him, his achievements and platform strongly.)
I am saying it boldly -- if America loses itself in this election, blame the Democrats. And Adam Schiff just diminished himself in my estimation beyond redemption.
There's only 100 and a few days until the election. In the U.S., that is simply not enough time to introduce and then elect someone new.
I just watched Nikki Hailey sell her soul to the devil (literally, IMO), as Republicans unite as one behind the most flawed candidate in the history of the nation, and a platform (Project 2025) that will destroy the America envisioned by the Founders.
But Democrats don't have the spine to get behind their man and stay there. (The problem started earlier, as @Revoltingest reminded me some days ago, when Biden and his issues were kept hidden away from primary voters -- but since that happened, the only hope remaining was to get behind him en masse, and stay there, defending him, his achievements and platform strongly.)
I am saying it boldly -- if America loses itself in this election, blame the Democrats. And Adam Schiff just diminished himself in my estimation beyond redemption.
There's only 100 and a few days until the election. In the U.S., that is simply not enough time to introduce and then elect someone new.
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
He was diagnosed with Covid today .... let's see how he holds up.Biden says he might quit presidential race if 'medical condition' emerged
Biden says he might quit presidential race if 'medical condition' emerged
Biden, 81, has come under increasing pressure from members of his own party to withdraw from the race following his disastrous debate with Trump, 78.
It's definitely a curious time for the democratic party. Biden is not IMHO a strong candidate at this point, but who else is? I don't think Kamala would stand much of a chance, and Newsom? What would he run on, 'I can do for you what I did for California?'
Daemon Sophic
Avatar in flux
Like last time, I would throw my vote in for Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg, or Kamala Harris (in that order).
Obviously, all sane voters would rather a piece of rotting broccoli be POTUS before tRump. It’s never been about party, it’s always been about national and international safety, as well as maintaining a representative democracy. The broccoli wouldn’t do anything to purposefully destroy these things.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
If they pull the plug on Biden, since he got all his delegates by a Democratic vote, that would be an assault on Democracy. A Cabal should not be able to override a consensus Democratic vote? Those who fight against Biden are a threat to Democracy and a Democratic vote where each votes counts more than a few authoritarians.
The only choice, to not be hypocrites to your meme; threat to Democracy, is to stay the course and let the ship sink. At least the Biden legacy will be protected and his career will end on a good note for him, not giving up on his ideas and supporters. To choose the Cabal makes you the new existential threat to Democracy, giving Trump a good reason to use the DNC kangaroo court system to get rid of tall he Soviet style players and propaganda machine; all the Putin protege.
Daemon Sophic
Avatar in flux
Obviously, no one should make or force Biden to step down. The Democratic process must continue.
Biden would have to step down willingly on his own.
If he does not step down, then I will absolutely be voting for him come November. Since I am a patriotic American, I will do everything I can to make sure that Trump never gets into the White House again.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
Biden is a very weak candidate! Newsom would be a disastrous choice, I think. I am not sure the Ds could choose anyone other than Harris unless the convention next month really goes old school.