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Schools Are Removing Analogue Clocks From Exam Halls As Teenagers Cannot Tell The Time

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I love technology and how its developing, but we shouldn't be dependent upon it, because you never know what could happen to local infrastructure, even if temporarily.

It's pretty pathetic when you see people not quite knowing what to do with what are considered to be the simplest things.

If Technology ever fails, I don't think anybody will even know what a pen and paper is used for anymore.

God help you when people don't even know how to fix a flat tire.

60 pc of Americans can’t change a flat tire - but most can Google it

Not only a generation of shear pathetic helplessness, but a generation of dependency relying on someone else to deal with problems that you really shouldn't have to. It's a clear set up for severe failure in the future.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
It's pretty pathetic when you see people not quite knowing what to do with what are considered to be the simplest things.

If Technology ever fails, I don't think anybody will even know what a pen and paper is used for anymore.

God help you when people don't even know how to fix a flat tire.

60 pc of Americans can’t change a flat tire - but most can Google it

Not only a generation of shear pathetic helplessness, but a generation of dependency relying on someone else to deal with problems that you really shouldn't have to. It's a clear set up for severe failure in the future.

I've used internet tutorials to learn how to fix things myself (shower faucet cartridge, motor coupling on washer, belt and heating element on dryer, etc.) rather than call a repairman. You learn something and save a ton of money.
I bet a lot of inoperable washers and dryers that people sit on the curb to be disposed of could probably be fixed with a ~$10-$20 part.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's pretty pathetic when you see people not quite knowing what to do with what are considered to be the simplest things.

If Technology ever fails, I don't think anybody will even know what a pen and paper is used for anymore.

God help you when people don't even know how to fix a flat tire.

60 pc of Americans can’t change a flat tire - but most can Google it

Not only a generation of shear pathetic helplessness, but a generation of dependency relying on someone else to deal with problems that you really shouldn't have to. It's a clear set up for severe failure in the future.
Of course, helplessness afflicts every generation in one way or another.
I need young'ns to deal with phone & computer issues. But that's only
modern computers....for older computer technology stuff, I help my son
cope (with our business system, which is MBOS running on DOS.)
 

esmith

Veteran Member
I wonder what'll happen if these students ever drive an
older car with analog speedometers, gas gauges, etc?
how about a manual transmission.....you know--- hot sports car and go through the gears on a winding road. never get that feeling from an automatic.
 

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
I don't know how things are in the US but here in Australia despite the presence of digital devices analog clocks are not exactly rare. (At least not yet). Everywhere I've gone to school (I'm 28, so not THAT long ago) and have worked had and have wall clocks. I don't buy that reading a clock face is some long obsolete skill along the lines of using a typewriter or MS-DOS.

Perhaps it will be in the future, which will be a shame as no phone will ever have the soul of a nice wrist/pocket watch.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
how about a manual transmission.....you know--- hot sports car and go through the gears on a winding road. never get that feeling from an automatic.

Apparently automatics aren't much of a thing outside of the U.S., Because of that, we have a reputation abroad that Americans don't know how to drive.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I don't know how things are in the US but here in Australia despite the presence of digital devices analog clocks are not exactly rare. (At least not yet). Everywhere I've gone to school (I'm 28, so not THAT long ago) and have worked had and have wall clocks. I don't buy that reading a clock face is some long obsolete skill along the lines of using a typewriter or MS-DOS.

Perhaps it will be in the future, which will be a shame as no phone will ever have the soul of a nice wrist/pocket watch.

They're not rare here, either. They're common home decor and most public buildings have them on walls, so I don't understand how kids could make it all the way to high school without having learned it in elementary school, from family, or even figuring it out on their own. It isn't complicated.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Apparently automatics aren't much of a thing outside of the U.S., Because of that, we have a reputation abroad that Americans don't know how to drive.
From driving in the majority of the states, they have a point; but then again driving in some of foreign countries it seems you are putting your life in serious danger.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Apparently automatics aren't much of a thing outside of the U.S., Because of that, we have a reputation abroad that Americans don't know how to drive.
That will change as emissions & fuel economy standards become stricter.
Modern automatics can improve both.


Hey, I just remembered that some decades ago, Australians were
complaining of frustration that they were always behind some
drongo who stalled a car while slipping the clutch at a light.
So it ain't just us uncoordinated Yanks.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
how about a manual transmission.....you know--- hot sports car and go through the gears on a winding road. never get that feeling from an automatic.
They also won't ever get that "uh-oh" feeling as they hit a bump on hard cornering and the back end of the car suddenly lurches over a foot because of the solid rear axle.

I like my manual transmission, but I also like my independent suspension, fuel injection, and twin scroll turbo.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
That will change as emissions & fuel economy standards become stricter.
Modern automatics can improve both.
Also the new bells and whistles. You generally can't get things like rear end collision avoidance if you have a manual transmission. I could see that being the death knell for manuals: the government requiring some intelligent safety feature that wouldn't work unless the car can control what gear it's in.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
"Schools are removing analogue clocks from examination halls because teenagers are unable to tell the time, a head teachers’ union has said.

Teachers are now installing digital devices after pupils sitting their GCSE and A-level exams complained that they were struggling to read the correct time on an analogue clock.

Malcolm Trobe, deputy general secretary at the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), said youngsters have become accustomed to using digital devices.

“The current generation aren’t as good at reading the traditional clock face as older generations,” he told The Telegraph.

“They are used to seeing a digital representation of time on their phone, on their computer. Nearly everything they’ve got is digital so youngsters are just exposed to time being given digitally everywhere.”
source

This has got to be the head-shaker of the month.

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This article gives me the feeling that it's written by someone engaging in a bit of sour grapes after being scared and confused by Snapchat or Instagram. "I can't figure out what you see as second nature? Well you can't figure out what I see as second nature!"
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I looked at an automatic VW Golf once - I couldn't stand the lack of engine braking - not good when descending hills having to rely on the brakes alone - they tend to overheat. Perhaps they are different now? :rolleyes:
 

esmith

Veteran Member
They also won't ever get that "uh-oh" feeling as they hit a bump on hard cornering and the back end of the car suddenly lurches over a foot because of the solid rear axle.

I like my manual transmission, but I also like my independent suspension, fuel injection, and twin scroll turbo.
Are you attempting to say that one can not find a sports car with a manual transmission that doesn't have independent suspension, fuel injection? Hmmm try the Chevrolet Corvette Z06, maybe the Mustang GT, or Mazda Miata, maybe the Porsche 911 turbo S. You can have your automatic transmissions in a sports car, they are for mama's boys.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Are you attempting to say that one can not find a sports car with a manual transmission that doesn't have independent suspension, fuel injection?
No, I'm not.

I'm saying that what passed for a "hot sports car" in the days before automatic transmissions were a major thing can be smoked by one of today's economy cars, and that driving a "hot sports car" of yesterday sucked in terms of driving enjoyment compared to today's hot sports car.

Yeah, lots of cars today have slushboxes, but lots of "performance" cars back in the day had crappy power-to-displacement ratios and cornered like cattle.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
No, I'm not.

I'm saying that what passed for a "hot sports car" in the days before automatic transmissions were a major thing can be smoked by one of today's economy cars, and that driving a "hot sports car" of yesterday sucked in terms of driving enjoyment compared to today's hot sports car.

Yeah, lots of cars today have slushboxes, but lots of "performance" cars back in the day had crappy power-to-displacement ratios and cornered like cattle.
Fair enough, but I really loved driving an MGB (getting old can't remember the exact year, but it was a late 60's or early 70's model), my wife loved her Healey until someone T-boned her in a parking-lot (totaled the little critter out). The "performance" cars back in the 60's and 70's were great in a straight line. Wish I had kept my 67 Plymouth Sport Fury with the 440 or my 71 Charger with the "small" 383. Oh well guess for my "driving fun" I guess I'll have to go with my Suzuki King Quad 500axi.
 
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