McBell
Unbound
You forgot the compass...
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Science and Religion not compatible.
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OurCreed
There is no God but Allah
Haha nice joke.
McBell
Unbound
No joke.
You forgot the compass.
OurCreed
There is no God but Allah
God is not present anywhere in this universe, it is impossible for the compass to point towards God, since God is not situated in any given position. God cannot be contained, nor can he be supported.
InformedIgnorance
Do you 'know' or believe?
OurCreed, I find it interesting that you note that the support of people (scientists and philosophers) is in some way a support for the validity of your concept, however can I ask you in the hypothetical, if all of those people were killed before they learned of god, would it undermine the validity of your claim? If every single being were an atheist, would it mean that the concept of a god would be less valid? I would argue it would not; does that not mean that the non existence of people supporting the position has not detracted from the position's validity and that the reverse might also be true - that were people to support such a claim it does not make it more valid - the support of people is not a valid argument for it's accuracy.
I would also suggest that in a thread like 'science and religion are not compatible' merely asserting (rather than demonstrating) that logic and science point towards god and that miracles are reported to have happened does nothing but undermine your argument.
I would also suggest that in a thread like 'science and religion are not compatible' merely asserting (rather than demonstrating) that logic and science point towards god and that miracles are reported to have happened does nothing but undermine your argument.
McBell
Unbound
It is not any fault of mine that you are unable/unwilling to see how a compass perfectly fits into your list.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
You speak a lot for this God of yours.
I enjoy the comic relief from the faithful who in one thread will claim God can never be understood but will conveniently move goal posts in defense of their God to deflect probing questions.
OurCreed
There is no God but Allah
Where am I implying that God can never be understood?
Looncall
Well-Known Member
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Yet there are alternative explantions for all these. You need to show evidence that supports your supernatural one.
Almost all of your list fails if one realises that religion is just errors carried over from the times of humanity's ignorance.
OurCreed
There is no God but Allah
I will also add that cannot discuss with those with religious glasses..
McBell
Unbound
Perhaps if you presented something that did not require a choir membership to believe...
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
Science and religion, properly viewed, are eminently compatible!
Science explains the "how" of things, while religion explains the "Who" and "Why."
Each has its proper role to play, and both are important:
Science without religion is gross materialism: bigger and better nukes.
Religion without science is superstition and witch-burning.
And the fastest way to get into trouble is to try to use either one in the place properly belonging to the other!
Peace,
Bruce
Science explains the "how" of things, while religion explains the "Who" and "Why."
Each has its proper role to play, and both are important:
Science without religion is gross materialism: bigger and better nukes.
Religion without science is superstition and witch-burning.
And the fastest way to get into trouble is to try to use either one in the place properly belonging to the other!
Peace,
Bruce
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Alceste
Vagabond
Ridicule what you don't understand. That is a pretty popular approach for those who fear novel information. Nobody wants to look ignorant, so the truly ignorant have to work twice as hard to look knowledgeable. When you really know nothing at all, your only options are to educate yourself or ridicule the educated.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Excuse my liberty in dragging multiple years of theist arguments into yours.
It concerns me how often (you will see before long on here) Christians and Muslims in particular attribute human characteristics to their God.
Wolke
Perennialist
There is no contradiction between science and religion; the contradiction is between religion and materialism.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
InformedIgnorance
Do you 'know' or believe?
There is no contradiction between science and religion; the contradiction is between science and fideism.
^Fixed
^Fixed
FunctionalAtheist
Hammer of Reason
The contradiction is between objective reality and subjective fairy tales. Science will exist as long as there are people who are driven to know the truth. Religion will exist as long as there are people willing to believe what they are told.