Science = Atheistic?

[UniversalScholar]

Thank you mastemia for being classy. Class; it never gets old! (I like your signature as well, how do i make one?)

Give me one moment as i cannot put in a url until i have 15 posts. Time to litter the forum with trivial knowledge.

 

[UniversalScholar]

30,767posts.
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5posts.

hmm...whos going to get the back up; regardless of "merrit" as jonman so eloquently spelt it ?
The guy who is actually right, or the one with 29thousand too many posts...


Im not sensitive to anything but people who speak as if they know something is a fact..when they don't.

Animism is an idea, not a religious system - try again?
Thats like classifying veganism a religious system..but im sure that predates sun worship too because of herbivores? What a joke. Do some research and save us.

The worship of the sun is the origins of Jesus Christ and is the oldest known religious belief on earth. The original 12 disciples were the 12 astrological signs of the zodiac. Science is not athiestic. Prove to me that animism is older than the hand me down religion of jesus christ. You trace the worship of christ all the way back...through mythraism, horus, osiris, and into pre-dynastic egypt.. And tell me animism is older.

Look at some of the oldest jewelery found on earth. One you could look up is a copper amulet shaped as the sun with 12 rays of light beaming from it dated to 17,000bc. But animism is surely older... I dont worship the sun...you are a panentheist.... panentheism is one move from animism and even includes animism in some cases..

Hmmmmm who could be carrying the bias..
The one stating the fact or the one speaking on his beliefs..

Animism
The belief in the existence of individual spirits that inhabit natural objects and phenomena. Dated to the stone age..


I personally think the sun is older than the stone age, and as with humanity.

Sun worship

• A religion with roots untraceable due to the age of humanity and the prominence of the sun in our lives.
  
  
  
  
  
  "actually from all the evidence we've collected, animism is in fact the earliest form of worship. Your random speculation as to worshipping the sun is just your own biased opinion, so it has absolutely no merrit."
  
  Jonman... show me your bevy of evidence, tell me who 'we' is and how youve collected this evidence.
  
  And sure.... sun worship is my own random speculation......... and my own biased opinion - because i do not worship the sun. Get real mate.
  
  
  
  
  This predates christ and is from a pagan greek culture in which christ was called ihsous, what is that on the ground...hmm.
  
  On his long journey, the sun of god has been called
  
  
  I guess sun worship is my own speculation...
  
  
  
  
  
  
  :no:
  
  

 

[UniversalScholar]

"If you believe in truth and proof like I do, YOU can easily prove this."

Not I can easily prove this.

Im sure that was a mere oversight.

 

[McBell]

"If you believe in truth and proof like I do, YOU can easily prove this."

Not I can easily prove this.

Im sure that was a mere oversight.

I do find it rather interesting that you demand proof but offer nothing of the sort yourself.

 

[Storm]

30,767posts.
vs
5posts.

hmm...whos going to get the back up; regardless of "merrit" as jonman so eloquently spelt it ?
The guy who is actually right, or the one with 29thousand too many posts...

The one who's right. Post count has nothing to do with accurate information.

Im not sensitive to anything but people who speak as if they know something is a fact..when they don't.

Wrong again, and hypocritical to boot.

Animism is an idea, not a religious system - try again?

Same is true of monotheism.

 

[UniversalScholar]

I dont demand proof in that quote my new forum friend, i tell all the proofers and truthers if they are wondering what im going on about, that they can find it....because its truth with proof. But they already know...im sure there are some theologically capable people on here...

I do find it interesting however that you didnt reply to my proof........ but decided to cry about how i demanded it but couldnt post any because this site requires 15posts before the usage of URLs......

TROLLS BE GONE!

 

[Luminous]

Im pretty sure before people began walking away from the path of righteousness and truth, it was more obvious that they were agnostic.

 

[UniversalScholar]

The one who's right. Post count has nothing to do with accurate information.


Wrong again, and hypocritical to boot.


Same is true of monotheism.


I LIKE TO **** ON PEOPLES PROOF BY DIVERTING ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY SAID AWAY FROM THE FACT

Wrong? How...that was me describing what im sensitive to. You know what im sensitive to? Wow..who is this guy haha.
Hypocritical? Says the guy whos given no proof, or information, just flimsy weak old opinion..
Monotheism is a belief sysem. If you summarize it...like im sure youve done...its the belief in a single diety.........but no you fail again because you take things literally.

Animism is a single belief.



Monotheistic - Christianity, judaism, islam etc.

Animism - Animism.......


Which is the belief and which is the belief system...........


I will not reply to this thread until someone makes it worth my while, gets off their brain chair and does some research, fetches me some easy-to-dismantle bullcrap they read off google.com and i get a huge ego boost stomping out the unknowing, unwilling and ignorant forum squad who have way more trolling skills than me.

Pleasant:candle:

 

[tumbleweed41]

Science is NOT Athiestic.

If you believe in truth and proof like I do, you can easily prove this.

Religion has its origins not as the cult, pyramid scheme commercial it is today whereby 99percent of the followers do not understand the book which they read.

Religion started out - in our 'history' (after the ice age) in what we refer to now as Egypt. It began as SCIENCE. It was Monotheistic. It had no name, and no occult characteristics as religion does today. It was simply the study of life.

In short, science is not atheistic because science is the mother of all religions.
Science being 'The study of life', and not what is taught in classes, on televisions etc. That is not science, it is theory masquerading as fact. Religion is synonymous with science, just do your homework; look into the past. Get to the source.

Im not sensitive to anything but people who speak as if they know something is a fact..when they don't.

Oh the irony...

 

[Storm]

TROLLS BE GONE!

Dude, it's more than a little presumptuous to call well-established, respected forum members trolls on your first day.

Not exactly surprising, though. We often get such reactions from people expecting us to be awed by their brilliance.

 

[UniversalScholar]

The irony is in you posting in this thread just to say that. Whata loser!

Theres nothing in the quote you used that isnt fact....if there was, you would be popping your little euro-centric brainmuscles to dig it up.

Chase your tail some more puppy!

 

[tumbleweed41]

I dont demand proof in that quote my new forum friend, i tell all the proofers and truthers if they are wondering what im going on about, that they can find it....because its truth with proof. But they already know...im sure there are some theologically capable people on here...

I do find it interesting however that you didnt reply to my proof........ but decided to cry about how i demanded it but couldnt post any because this site requires 15posts before the usage of URLs......

TROLLS BE GONE!

What 'proof'?

(BTW, trolls are not tolerated on this forum, nor are accusations of trolling levied against members in long good standing.)

 

[Storm]

Wrong? How...that was me describing what im sensitive to. You know what im sensitive to? Wow..who is this guy haha.
Hypocritical? Says the guy whos given no proof, or information, just flimsy weak old opinion..
Monotheism is a belief sysem. If you summarize it...like im sure youve done...its the belief in a single diety.........but no you fail again because you take things literally.

Animism is a single belief.



Monotheistic - Christianity, judaism, islam etc.

Animism - Animism.......


Which is the belief and which is the belief system...........


I will not reply to this thread until someone makes it worth my while, gets off their brain chair and does some research, fetches me some easy-to-dismantle bullcrap they read off google.com and i get a huge ego boost stomping out the unknowing, unwilling and ignorant forum squad who have way more trolling skills than me.

Pleasant:candle:

Wiki: Contemporary Animist Traditions:

• African traditional religions, a group of beliefs in various spirits of nature, are commonly described as animistic, yet this fact has for many years been disputed by leading cultural anthropologists.[who?]
• In the Canary Islands (Spain), aboriginal Guanches professed an animistic religion.[citation needed]
• Shinto, the traditional religion of Japan, is highly animistic. In Shinto, spirits of nature, or kami, are believed to exist everywhere, from the major (such as the goddess of the sun), which can be considered polytheistic, to the minor, which are more likely to be seen as a form of animism.
• There are some Hindu groups which may be considered animist. The coastal Karnataka has a different tradition of praying to spirits. See also Folk Hinduism
• Many traditional Native American religions are fundamentally animistic. See, for example, the Lakota Sioux prayer Mitakuye Oyasin. The Haudenausaunee Thanksgiving Address, which can take an hour to recite, directs thanks towards every being - plant, animal and other.
• The New Age movement commonly purports animism in the form of the existence of nature spirits and fairies.
• Modern Neopagans, especially Eco-Pagans,[14][page needed] sometimes like to describe themselves as animists, meaning that they respect the diverse community of living beings and spirits with whom humans share the world/cosmos.[15][page needed] Some Wiccans may use the term animist to refer to the idea that a Mother Goddess and Horned God consist of everything that exists.

 

[UniversalScholar]

Dude, it's more than a little presumptuous to call well-established, respected forum members trolls on your first day.

Not exactly surprising, though. We often get such reactions from people expecting us to be awed by their brilliance.

Awww, forum immunity? troll is such a harsh word, how will he cope tonight?

Get off your high horse before you are knocked off it my friend..

I didnt expect to awe you with brilliance, i did however expect you to at least back up your earlier messages.... and not do the troll thing; take it personal......

:sorry1: for being honest and factual storm. I will rub your wounds in another life....in the meanwhile buy a shell and live in it you sensitive, time-wasting TROLL.

 

[UniversalScholar]

Its my time to leave, someone's quoted wikipedia - the user constructed encyclopedia. MUST BE all facts in there !

The road to enlightenment is uphill for some, what a shame.

Bye thread.

 

[Storm]

Don't let the door hit yer *** on the way out!

 

[McBell]

i did however expect you to at least back up your earlier messages

Still awaiting the proofs you claim exist yet have still forgotten to present.

 

[McBell]

Its my time to leave, someone's quoted wikipedia - the user constructed encyclopedia. MUST BE all facts in there !

The road to enlightenment is uphill for some, what a shame.

Bye thread.

Your flock awaits your tells of valorous glory.

 

[tumbleweed41]

And sure.... sun worship is my own random speculation......... and my own biased opinion - because i do not worship the sun. Get real mate.

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  This predates christ and is from a pagan greek culture in which christ was called ihsous, what is that on the ground...hmm.
  
  
  

No, actually that is a picture of XIth Station of the Cross, Golgotha, at the Greek Orthodox Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem.
The Church was first ordered built by Constantine under the direction of his mother on the site of a temple to Aphrodite (Built by Hadran) that had been ordered destroyed by Constantine, with all groundwork and rubble removed.

 

[tumbleweed41]

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  I guess sun worship is my own speculation...
  
  
  
  
  
  
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This picture is a carving of Nefertiti and her husband Pharaoh Akhenaten, who revolutionized religion in 14th century BCE Egypt by beginning a monolatristic worship of the Sun Disc, Aten. This practice was later ended by Pharaoh Horemheb in the 13th century BCE.