A Thousand Suns
Rationalist
......continue with what??
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Science beats religion
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Orbital
Member
I am curious to find out how science has proven the Quran to be correct. This is news to me.
A Thousand Suns
Rationalist
I proved it many time here---although my thread got deleted---but i could message you my post if you want
Orbital
Member
I proved it many time here---although my thread got deleted---but i could message you my post if you want
If you are going to bring up the 'science' in the Quran that was taken from the greek philosophers please do not.
If this is something else yes I would be happy to read through it.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Science deals with the natural world. Most concepts of God are supernatural.
Therefor science can neither disprove nor prove God.
What science has done is improve our understanding of how the world really works, and discredited the previous supernatural explanations and myths.
Only the religious beliefs that are in direct contrast with known reality (YEC, World Wide Flood, Talking Donkeys, Flying Horses, etc) are discredited. Religion itself can exist without conflicting with science.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
NOOOOOOOO!!!
(Get ready fro a load of copy and pastes from "Science in the Qu'ran" sites...)
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Heh. My thoughts exactly.
Orbital
Member
Just_me_Mike
Well-Known Member
I thought Monta's reply was quite nice :yes:
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Lol, sadly I've seen them dozens upon dozens of times (I live in an area with a large Muslim population). Pretty soon I might be able to quote them back to the person quoting it to me.
Hell, even the imam when I met him tried to convert me to Islam with Zakir Naik "scientific miracles".
The one that makes my blood boil is the "Muhammad is the Bible" though.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
I'm a scientist... and I'm religious.
Religion is about how we identify with our fellow humans and the rest of the universe... science is about how we learn about our fellow humans and the rest of the universe.
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Gloone
Well-Known Member
Science is not in the business to disprove religion. Whoever fed your brain with that crap is full of bull-hockey.
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Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
You do know that this was a common 19th century manor of interpating mythology. It was only dominate during this period due to the patronizing views of European colonialism of none white cultures.
Even the ancient Greeks had a more advanced way at looking at mythology. Euhemerus had a veiw that was almost as literal as your view but a little more believe able then defining myth as a primitive science. Still it was criticized by Plato who made jokes at his expense.
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strikeviperMKII
Well-Known Member
Welcome to RF.
I would say religion is not provable by science. Not provable and disproved are two different things.
rahulbshah
New Member
Science explains things up to certain extent. But beyond that, what stands is God. And to understand God, 'Dharma' is must. (Religion is actually a term for Adhyatma and there is not exact word in english for Dharma, but we can still consider Duty). Dharma explains Pure Philosopy and it is much far beyond than Science.
ButTheCatCameBack
Active Member
Philosophy is better at religion than that and tends not to predicate itself on unproven ontological statements like religion does. The idea that religion makes no assertions as to how the universe works is a modern idea.
For myself I would not put it in terms of science beats religion. It sounds too much like science and religion playing a game of chess or something. Rather I would say that science supplanted religion as the far far FAR better tool to use in understanding how the various aspects of the universe actually work.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
I am religious and interested in science.
I see both as stories spun by subjective minds.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Science and religion are (or should be) largely independend of each other. Religion should learn from science and adjust itself accordingly, mostly in social science matters. But people are not really expected to let go of their beliefs due to science, except I suppose when something was not quite correct in their beliefs in the first place.
St Giordano Bruno
Well-Known Member
The statement that "science has completely disproved religion" is a grossly sweeping generalization because even atheism can be like a religion to some people. A few atheists do in fact proselytize their beliefs with as much vigour as any evangelical Christian at every opportunity. Richard Dawkins would fit that mould.