So the story goes. Not everyone believes it, and it appears that "we" can only know after our resurrection...and thus is evidence that we cannot solve "the final mystery."Didn't Jesus die for all man's sins including the present and future?
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So the story goes. Not everyone believes it, and it appears that "we" can only know after our resurrection...and thus is evidence that we cannot solve "the final mystery."Didn't Jesus die for all man's sins including the present and future?
So the story goes. Not everyone believes it, and it appears that "we" can only know after our resurrection...and thus is evidence that we cannot solve "the final mystery."
“Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve.”
Relativity, the Absolute, the Human Search for Truth: Nobel Laureate and Quantum Theory Originator Max Planck on Science and Mystery
It doesn't matter what anyone believes. The truth will come out in the end.
I did not say any differentIf there is a final mystery. That mystery so far is only known to exist in the mind by faith and belief, not evidence.
And of course religion doesn't solve the final mystery either. All it does is proposed to solve one mystery by offering up an even bigger mystery as the solution, which of course is no solution at all.
You can't just say what mystery you are speaking of?
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Max Planck said the mystery includes us.
“Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve.”
Relativity, the Absolute, the Human Search for Truth: Nobel Laureate and Quantum Theory Originator Max Planck on Science and Mystery
I'm not sure if it's actually a quality of the universe, or just a quality (property) of our ability to conceive about the universe.
Order and chaos..
I wish I could find the original but someone wrote a
piece about how god made the universe.
First, he went for order, perfection. Every element and
compound in gigantic crystals, exact to the electron.
Hmm. Boring. He tried the opposite extreme. The
end point of entropy perfect disorder.
That was even worse.
Then, he said, "I have a Divine Idea! I will combine
these forces in a dynamic interchange!"
It may be a property of reality that we cannot fully solve the final mysteries the universe... but that does not exclude the possibility that others in the universe CAN do so...Yes and that uncertainty is also interesting...can the knower and the known be considered as separate?
I have other reasons, perhaps, that lead me to believe that rationality is directly reflective of the nature of what rationality is being used to model. If we happen to think of rationality as being somehow independent of the reality in which it finds itself embedded then we might not realize that rationality is evolved to work in the reality in which it exists.
Strange loops.
Exactly.....“Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature. And that is because, in the last analysis, we ourselves are part of nature and therefore part of the mystery that we are trying to solve.”
Relativity, the Absolute, the Human Search for Truth: Nobel Laureate and Quantum Theory Originator Max Planck on Science and Mystery
Self referentialism isnt logic which is basically what he said.I don't think this follows, logically.
Religion can be about "That" - God. Or religion can be about '"You". Which is mystery?
Well thats closer!!!!! And true!!!!Is that a problem?
Religion certainly can't solve it either.
Well said. Although i am pretty sure fans if science and fans of religion argue over which absolutist is correct.Yo. Yo.
I have red flagged an uncharacteristic unthinking statement of yours. Science does not make absolute statements. We make and WE ARE THE ULTIMATE MYSTERIES.
Art is interpretation of that mysteryScience may or may not be able to solve whatever the 'final mystery' is (and if I'm understanding the linked article, there will always be one more mystery), but it sure can investigate that mystery...whatever mystery it is...
Art is interpretation of that mystery
Religion is recognition and appreciation of that mystery.
I take my lead from Einstein, who in turn took inspiration from Spinoza.
It may be a property of reality that we cannot fully solve the final mysteries the universe... but that does not exclude the possibility that others in the universe CAN do so...
That feels poorly worded and was either created or is being spun to suggest something that isn’t actually true. I see no reason to refer to “science” in this context. The statement “Humans cannot solve…” would express the same thing without opening for the anti-science spin. It does seem true that we can never know everything and the fact that we’re part of everything is one of the reasons.
It also isn’t clear what is meant by “the ultimate mystery of nature” either. That needs some wider context on the quote which the linked article doesn’t give (apparently it was taken from the foreword of a book). Again, there is the implication of something relating to “spirituality” or religion but no indication whether that was intended or not, either when it was initially written or as it is being presented here.
Quotes presented without context so often suffer these issues (or misuses?), especially in abstract and philosophical contexts so don’t really offer anything that can be reasonably discussed on their own.