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Science cannot solve the final mystery

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Your point just shows how the heritage of the "Abrahamic Religions" have lost it´s cosmological meanings. You can find several other religion which, for instants, describes astronomical issues very significantly. and even have a Story of Creation which is scientific valid if you understand the mythical symbolism.

I do not see any relation between myth and hard science. Please enlighten me.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
If focusing on the astronomical and cosmological science, you can find lots of ancient/religious/mythological descriptions which can enlighten you about the scientific contents.

You can for instants read this Vedic Philosophical Article

The link did not work "Page not found".
The contents of the universe aren't scientific. Science is a methodology for understanding the universe, not the universe itself.
What "scientific data" is available in mythology beyond simple observations (many of which were wrong in their conclusions)?
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
If focusing on the astronomical and cosmological science, you can find lots of ancient/religious/mythological descriptions which can enlighten you about the scientific contents.

You can for instants read this Vedic Philosophical Article

It's an uphill battle because people can't accept the idea that modern man might not only be wrong but we aren't the very crown of creation.
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
The contents of the universe aren't scientific. Science is a methodology for understanding the universe, not the universe itself.

Very true!

The universe isn't mathematical either but math obeys the same rules of logic that govern reality (IMO). There are no "laws of nature" but reality itself is logical and this logic appears to be law from the perspective of our science.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Very true!

The universe isn't mathematical either but math obeys the same rules of logic that govern reality (IMO). There are no "laws of nature" but reality itself is logical and this logic appears to be law from the perspective of our science.

There are in fact laws of nature. they are descriptive and not prescriptive. They describe how things work, they do not cause things to work.
 

atanu

Member
Premium Member
It is not. Your definition of dogma is flawed.

A blanket statement "Religion requires adherence to dogma" is a dogma.

Definition of dogma
1a: something held as an established opinion especially : a definite authoritative tenet
b: a code of such tenets pedagogical dogma
c: a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds
...

 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
The link did not work "Page not found".
The contents of the universe aren't scientific. Science is a methodology for understanding the universe, not the universe itself.
What "scientific data" is available in mythology beyond simple observations (many of which were wrong in their conclusions)?
Try this link instead
Unless you are an expert on Comparative Mythology and ancient symbolism, you really cannot decide what is wrong or not.
Even if you read the biblical Story of Creation it´s deepest content is astronomical and cosmological.
 

Maximilian

Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
What on earth has atheism to do with raping children to death? Are you claiming that belief in God is a necessary condition precedent to moral behavior? That's simply untrue.

Which, of course, explains why you're against abortion and men marrying boys, yes?
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Which, of course, explains why you're against abortion and men marrying boys, yes?
As for abortion, not to mention infanticide,. God's all for it ─

Hosea 13:16 Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.
But he's a notorious homophobe, of course. quite obsessed with it. Makes me wonder what the real story was with his very bitter divorce from Asherah. He never remarried, as you know.

Still, you didn't answer my question. Do you believe that it's necessary to believe in God, or a god, in order to act morally?
 
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Darkstorn

This shows how unique i am.
See “The Grand Design” by Hawking and ”A Universe From Nothing“ by Krauss.

The actual title of Krauss' book is: "A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing".

I do not understand your strategy.

It seems like you think you know the atheist mindset by heart, yet from the output it's obvious you have barely any experience in actually dealing with people outside your own bubble. Because what you're doing is a disservice to your cause.
 
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