Science IS religion

[dad]

Not only do i disagree, i also make the claim that it definitely doesn't help your belief of last thursdayism. I'm trying to pull attention to this fact. I feel it's working already.



No, it's all about you believing in last thursdayism.

Your unsupportable pseudo science is what is denied here, and your failure to defend your fantasies is evidence.

 

[Darkstorn]

Your unsupportable pseudo science is what is denied here, and your failure to defend your fantasies is evidence.

Yes, it's all being denied by a last thursdayist.

Exactly why it's so funny. And hilariously unconvincing.

 

[Bear Wild]

Yes.

He rose again, death could not hold Him, but in paying for our sins with His pure life, we can be saved. That is the plan of salvation.
When I look in the red letter edition of the bible where His quotes are in red, yes, He sure did!
Since He is active now and helps those who do preach, yes.
The thread is about defending your religion, not mine.

So god died then rose again. Thus humans killed god but could not keep him dead? Did not know humans had that power of a god.

You can pick any bible you want and none of them were written by Jesus. They were written down by people who were not first hand witnesses. And whether you book prints statements in red blue or purple they are not direct quotes from Jesus. They were handed down by word of mouth then placed into gospels by people who never heard them - Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Mary, Gospel of John, Gospel of Mathew, Gospel of Luke, Gospel of Mark and others. All written long after the event.

So if god is male how did god create a female? Sperm but no eggs to fertilize.

 

[Darkstorn]

So if god is male how did god create a female? Sperm but no eggs to fertilize.

He's a HYPERliteral YEC, also known as "Last Thursdayist."

The answer is: Rib of man. DUH.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You cannot hide under the umbrella of a sweeping claim about what evidence is, or what a method is. To be called evidence, something must stand on it's two feet. You do not have evidence for what time is like in deep space for example, so claiming scientific...anything is disingenuous. You had every opportunity to post it, but failed.

dad, I am not hiding. I have offered to discuss this with you countless times since you obviously do not understand the concept. The one quote that I have posted refutes your arguments all by itself.


And please don't lie. I posted evidence. Others posted evidence. You proved beyond a reasonable doubt that you are either a liar or do not understand the concept of evidence. I would rather assume that you are ignorant rather than to assume that you are a liar, that is why I offer to discuss the concepts that you do not understand.


But of course you have to run away. You know that we do have evidence and do follow the scientific method. Your only escape is to pretend to be ignorant.

 

[dad]

dad, I am not hiding.

Nor posting anything relevant.

I have offered to discuss this with you countless times since you obviously do not understand the concept. The one quote that I have posted refutes your arguments all by itself.

By the time you get on a debate forum you should be prepared already to defend your claims, rather than constantly saying you could...but...but..but. Never any meat.

I posted evidence.

You can call 100% belief based assertion with no support anything you like.
Better to be honest.

 

[dad]

Yes, it's all...

No one denies that you make religious unsupportable claims. Your same state pastism is Last Thursdayism. Denial of history and Scriptural historical records with NO reason. Stop special pleading for us to blindly believe in what you cannot support.

 

[dad]

So god died then rose again. Thus humans killed god but could not keep him dead? Did not know humans had that power of a god.

They soon found out.

You can pick any bible you want and none of them were written by Jesus. They were written down by people who were not first hand witnesses.

So Peter and John never met Him eh? Good luck with that.

So if god is male how did god create a female? Sperm but no eggs to fertilize.

He boned her.

 

[Bear Wild]

They soon found out.
So Peter and John never met Him eh? Good luck with that.



He boned her.

We do not know what happened to those who placed him on the cross so how could you know they soon found out?
The John and Peter that were reported to know Jesus never wrote anything. The author of the gospel of John was an unknown author whose name was not John.
If you are claiming eve was created by the rib bone then there is not much hope. That would be a clone thus you would have Adam 1 and Adam 2. both male which implies a very strange relationship.

 

[Darkstorn]

No one denies that you make religious unsupportable claims. Your same state pastism is Last Thursdayism. Denial of history and Scriptural historical records with NO reason. Stop special pleading for us to blindly believe in what you cannot support.

Nope.

Last Thursdayism - RationalWiki

And

Omphalos hypothesis - RationalWiki

You're a Last Thursdayist.

It's a title you earned based on your beliefs. It has a meaning, that is obviously distinct from your understanding of said meaning.

Stop special pleading for us to blindly believe in what you cannot support.

I have not done this, therefore maybe you should follow your own advice about blindly believing. And you're asking us to accept your beliefs of last thursdayism as truth. Blindly.

But really, we're already beyond me evidencing you to be just another last thursdayist masquerading as a honest debate. We're at the part where I make fun of you.

Not to mention you're an ILL-INFORMED last thursdayist. Thinking a single author of the Bible *personally* met Jesus even though the Bible never actually says this? So it really looks like this: I have read the Bible, dad has not.

 

[Darkstorn]

That would be a clone thus you would have Adam 1 and Adam 2. both male which implies a very strange relationship.

To fully understand a last thursdayist:

He's actually trying to deny the entire science of biology. All of it, in one fell swoop. Therefore arguments like that simply aren't effective. Cloning doesn't exist, because biology is a lie by satan. That kind of crap.

He literally thinks the first human was formed out of dust, in already adult form. Even apologetics wouldn't help a person who's MORE literal than most literal-minded YECs you normally see.

Last thursdayists tend to be actually insane and unable to function in society. I know for a fact that these debates is all dad ever does, or will do.

I wouldn't be surprised if he never went outside.

 

[Bear Wild]

To fully understand a last thursdayist:

He's actually trying to deny the entire science of biology. All of it, in one fell swoop. Therefore arguments like that simply aren't effective. Cloning doesn't exist, because biology is a lie by satan. That kind of crap.

He literally thinks the first human was formed out of dust, in already adult form. Even apologetics wouldn't help a person who's MORE literal than most literal-minded YECs you normally see.

Last thursdayists tend to be actually insane and unable to function in society. I know for a fact that these debates is all dad ever does, or will do.

I wouldn't be surprised if he never went outside.

You appear to be correct. He asks for proof and evidence that He knows he will never accept. It is almost like he just wants to harass anyone that believes in evolution. He is clearly unsuccessful in this forum.

 

[dad]

Nope.

Last Thursdayism - RationalWiki

There is no appearance of age except inside your belief filled head. Really. That is why you cannot support your claims here, and have resorted to lies and spam.

 

[dad]

We do not know what happened to those who placed him on the cross so how could you know they soon found out?

Rome fell and Jerusalem was destroyed for starters. Then there was the acts of the apostles. There was the hours of darkness mid day, the earthquakes, Jesus appearing to over 500 people etc etc.

If you are claiming eve was created by the rib bone then there is not much hope. That would be a clone thus you would have Adam 1 and Adam 2. both male which implies a very strange relationship.

If man could clone a bone using present nature technology maybe they would have some such problem. As it stands you are inventing baseless unsupportable doubts and trying to avoid admitting your pseudo science is religion.

That's OK, no longer any need to admit what you repeated fail shows!

 

[Darkstorn]

There is no appearance of age except inside your belief filled head. Really.

I know, what you're saying is entirely in line with your last thursdayism beliefs.

Exactly like i've been saying for quite a while now.

That is why you cannot support your claims here, and have resorted to lies and spam.

Retract, or you'll be known as a liar. In addition to being a last thursdayist. Everything you say is in accordance to last thursdayist beliefs. There's a reason why Answers in Genesis both dismisses the hypothesis, and accidentally supports it in many instances: It's because both are really, really dumb.

You are not here to debate, nor do you even respect the rules of a debate. You're here to spew your hate-filled(and did i mention dumb?) message. Last thursdayists... Heh.

 

[Darkstorn]

You appear to be correct. He asks for proof and evidence that He knows he will never accept. It is almost like he just wants to harass anyone that believes in evolution. He is clearly unsuccessful in this forum.

He's actually holding onto more of a facade here than in his other forum of choice, Christian forums. There he just skips the pretense of a scientific debate and goes straight to "you'll burn in hell!"

I am not exaggerating. Knowing his content there, in comparison to here, makes this REALLY obvious: It's all a trick. He's trying to act as calm and rational as possible. And it's still this bad.

 

[Bear Wild]

Rome fell and Jerusalem was destroyed for starters. Then there was the acts of the apostles. There was the hours of darkness mid day, the earthquakes, Jesus appearing to over 500 people etc etc.
If man could clone a bone using present nature technology maybe they would have some such problem. As it stands you are inventing baseless unsupportable doubts and trying to avoid admitting your pseudo science is religion.

That's OK, no longer any need to admit what you repeated fail shows!

Now you are confusing history too? Rome fell from attach of the northern tribes of Europe. So that claim shows your understanding history appears to be on the same level as your understanding of biology or science in general. Then you put in some random statement of the hours of darkness mid day? The earthquakes? Jesus appearing to over 500 people? These appear to be fragmented and tangential statements instead of clear coherent statements. This with your magical thinking could suggest an issue with cognitive processing. Lets remember the misuse of words like pseudo science as religion. This shows a lack of understanding of the words or the science - you choose.
What are repeated fail shows?

 

[Darkstorn]

Now you are confusing history too? Rome fell from attach of the northern tribes of Europe.

All of that? Goddidit. Therefore his argument still stands and you're the one who's wrong. Sad. :/

 

[Bear Wild]

He's actually holding onto more of a facade here than in his other forum of choice, Christian forums. There he just skips the pretense of a scientific debate and goes straight to "you'll burn in hell!"

I am not exaggerating. Knowing his content there, in comparison to here, makes this REALLY obvious: It's all a trick. He's trying to act as calm and rational as possible. And it's still this bad.

Very interesting. This has been my only part of the forum which I have come across "dad". Thanks for the warning.

 

[Bear Wild]

All of that? Goddidit. Therefore his argument still stands and you're the one who's wrong. Sad. :/

You have got to admit it is an easy stance. No thinking. No searching for evidence. Just the one answer over and over. Very sad.