science vs religion?

[Grandliseur]

Sorry. But I'm sure well meet again on RF

Thank you for your kindness.

I think your inline line cute: "I started life with nothing and i still have most of it left."

 

[Repox]

The elements of the universe point to creation - creation.com

So despite spouting you are working on the statistics, in actual fact all you have is hot air. Thanks for the clarification

It is really disappointing to find so much confusion and lack or reading ability on the internet. I never proposed anything more than a probability idea. I am not responsible for what I have not posted. If I had all the statistics I would not post it where a bunch of idiots dwell.

 

[Milton Platt]

Because god is the strongest force.

You are presupposing the god exists without demonstrating that it does.

 

[ChristineM]

The elements of the universe point to creation - creation.com

It is really disappointing to find so much confusion and lack or reading ability on the internet. I never proposed anything more than a probability idea. I am not responsible for what I have not posted. If I had all the statistics I would not post it where a bunch of idiots dwell.

Actually you raved about the probability maths you were working on so don't try shifting blame for putting your mouth in top gear

 

[Repox]

Actually you raved about the probability maths you were working on so don't try shifting blame for putting your mouth in top gear

Post that statement, and indicate the post number.

 

[Polymath257]

Because god is the strongest force.

Is this definitional or a conclusion? Either way, how do you derive the existence of a strongest force?

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

that Something is beyond space and time, it's the eternal, it's god himself.

You have NAILED science vs religion and why the two are at odds, and always WILL be!

You asserted knowledge that you can't possibly know; that the "something is beyond space and time, it is eternal, and it was God himself!" Yet you have no mechanism and no evidence to assert this as being fact; because it remains a belief. You asked the question: "What was before the Big Bang?" Then you answered it with yoru own preconceived beliefs. Now, a scientists asks, "What was before the Big Bang?" Then, finding no available answer to the question that is verified by evidence, says, "I don't know"; then seeks to find the answer instead of pulling one out of his arse.

There are actually a few YouTube documentaries where real scientists are actually asking that question and they have come up with some pretty interesting ideas. It might be worth your while to check them out.

 

[ChristineM]

Post that statement, and indicate the post number.

So now you want me to waste my time trawling back through a thread... Right. You know what you said and you know my replies (and the replies of others). Ok

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I am proposing a theory based on statistics for proving the likelihood of intelligent design. It is not religiosity, it is mathematical.

Now show the theory, show the maths

 

[syo]

You are presupposing the god exists without demonstrating that it does.

Is this definitional or a conclusion? Either way, how do you derive the existence of a strongest force?

God is the eternal force that created everything. It's simple. What was before everything? What connects everything? God.

 

[syo]

Yet you have no mechanism and no evidence to assert this as being fact; because it remains a belief.

What mechanism do you want?

 

[ChristineM]

God is the eternal force that created everything. It's simple. What was before everything? What connects everything? God.

Who said?

 

[syo]

Who said?

It's the very definition of god. That's what god does.

 

[ChristineM]

It's the very definition of god. That's what god does.

God :

1. (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
2. (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity

Says nothing about eternal. Nothing about before or about connection.

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

What mechanism do you want?

Something verifiable; something testable, repeatable, measurable and that provides a predictive model of reality.

 

[Polymath257]

God is the eternal force that created everything. It's simple. What was before everything? What connects everything? God.

Why do you think there *was* anything 'before everything'? Don't you see that is just a contradiction in terms? Hence, this is trivially not possible.

Why do you think there *is* anything that 'connects everything'?

 

[`mud]

"Something verifiable.." the transparant connection of the loosely knit.
The filiment of existence that convinces us of mergeability with Cosmos.
The gaseous un-counted flotsum that pervades our own universe,
and that beyond.
The monementally large sun-like monsters of kindling planets,
and destroying all.
~
There are some who like to believe some gods exist,
out in fantacy cosmic-land'
Trace them on your night sky, all the `idols` you can imagine,
but no God !
Point to heaven or hell !
.............................
~
This is getting no-where, I'll quit here.....

 

[syo]

Why do you think there *was* anything 'before everything'? Don't you see that is just a contradiction in terms? Hence, this is trivially not possible.

Why do you think there *is* anything that 'connects everything'?

what contradiction?

 

[Polymath257]

what contradiction?

Something before everything? So it is before itself?

 

[`mud]

I have to guess....God was the singularity ?
And from himself did he fashion everything !
From the good book did I find that !
Now I can sleep better...... that I know that !

 

[syo]

Something before everything? So it is before itself?

yes, if you view it as cause and effect.