Frank Merton
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You know, taking someone's words out of context in order to distort the meaning and insult them, when it is easy for people to look and see what really was said, seems a foolish thing to do.
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Sciences as a religion.
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Frank Merton
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To the contrary; people would do far better if they were more tolerant and open minded and not so damn certain all the time that they are right.
outhouse
Atheistically
the only reason your alive is because of science, yes those people that are so damn certain
the only reason your alive is because of science, yes those people that are so damn certain
And I thought science was a tool. Its actually a god and can give life. Your sure its not a religion.
Oneatatime
Huh?
Methodological Naturalism (MN) is often confused with Philosophical Naturalism (PN). PN states that there is only the natural and that the supernatural doesn't exist. MN is a means of knowing which deals with only the natural but makes no claim that the supernatural doesn't exist. This is why its possible to believe in the supernatural and subscribe to methodological naturalism as a means of knowing. Therefore science (MN) is not a religion but rather a system of knowing along with revelation and logic.
outhouse
Atheistically
name one person that you witnessed god come down and save their life.
god/ imagination can give nothing in my opinion
science is a tool in which medical proffessionals use to save your life
disease control is also science.
OH I KNOW EVERYTIME YOU GET ON YOUR PC YOU LOG INTO THE SCIENCE IS RELIGION CHANNEL BY USING WHAT SCIENCE MADE FOR YOU.
without science you have no PC no TV you wouldnt have anything
Frank Merton
Active Member
I don't quite get it how you are so sure I would be dead if it weren't for science. That seems like being way too certain.the only reason your alive is because of science, yes those people that are so damn certain
That said, you miss the point. I don't think it wise to be certain of anything: not only is it arrogant, but it is also asking for being wrong. We all have changed our minds on all sorts of things through life, and so would do well to remember how wrong we are capable of being.
Frank Merton
Active Member
Is that so? Wow, I guess all the astronomy textbooks of the last century were wrong. Just goes to show.
outhouse
Atheistically
pandemics would most certainly wipe out the majority of the population without the antibiotics science has produced.
have you ever had to go to a doctor for anything ? use a flue shot? surgury of any kind?
you drink clean water that keeps you alive because science figured out how to keep it clean.
and on and on and on and on, do you have a clue?
outhouse
Atheistically
just goes to show you cannot understand the basic concept of science and how it grows.
last century
Frank Merton
Active Member
just goes to show you cannot understand the basic concept of science and how it grows.
last century
Oh please spare me your ignorant boorishnes and rude emoticons. I looked up the subject in my old college textbooks, and they all identify the Milky Way as a regular, not a barred spiral.
That new information has come to light is not terribly surprising; the same textbooks talk about the difficulty of mapping the galaxy from our position inside it.
An unwillingness to admit that science is not a faith and therefore can be altered as evidence demands tends to make me think that to you science is a religion, about which you lack objectivity.
Frank Merton
Active Member
How old were Jefferson and Adams when they died?
We are all aware of the benefits of medicine, but you should realize that the main reason for the extension in life expectancy has been the reduction in infant mortality and maternal mortality.
My main objection to your argument, however, is that what science gives us is greater comfort in life: what it does not give us is our humanity.
outhouse
Atheistically
welcome to some new material Frank.
Milky Way - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
unlike a old stale 3000 year old religion that never changes,,,,,,, science deals with explaining things the best it can. It grows and changes as new evidence is presented. That is the beauty of science, it doesnt claim to know everything. It just explains things the best it can.
Some scientific theorys do not change but they are added to as we learn more. Like evolution and gravity.
and either does religion whats your point??????
not relevant at all. the earth was not as populated as it is now. When the earth gets to populated nature has a way of thinning things out by disease, if large scale natural disasters dont exterminate life
Frank Merton
Active Member
Sheesh. The people on these boards are obviously so use to arguing with brainless Christians that they have lost the ability to see beyond their own noses.
outhouse
Atheistically
are you certain?????
ellenjanuary
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ellenjanuary
Well-Known Member
It happens. I tend to go into "fundamentalist mode" debating science; seen the work of some professionals, sound like they're in "fundamentalist mode," too. But it is not "science as religion" so much as the pervasiveness of religious thought. Dawkins is a favored illustration, but I've seen videos where he berates himself for speaking of "nature selects" as if nature were agency. Pretty cool, in my book. Ever see a video where a televangelist berates himself for error?
What we so casually label "science" as if it were somehow, different; ain't. The scientific method begins with observation; but, of course, the scientist begins with belief. Ideally, however, in the development from hypothesis to theory; mistaken beliefs are discarded through experimentation and repeatability. That is the value of science to society, to build an objective framework from how to what that everyone can use.
If ya ask me, it's the why causing all the problems.
What we so casually label "science" as if it were somehow, different; ain't. The scientific method begins with observation; but, of course, the scientist begins with belief. Ideally, however, in the development from hypothesis to theory; mistaken beliefs are discarded through experimentation and repeatability. That is the value of science to society, to build an objective framework from how to what that everyone can use.
If ya ask me, it's the why causing all the problems.
Frank Merton
Active Member
I guess. I'm stuck in rural Cambodia with nothing available to me except the internet, and you can read the news on it only so many times. I want intelligent discussion, not argument. I realize the two are not much different, since discussion doesn't happen unless there are differences of opinion. Still, it really gets to me when it is obvious the person responding to what I post has completely misinterpreted what I say, making all sorts of unsupported assumptions about me.Occupational hazard.