Scientific Evidence That Islam is the true religion

[hanif]

thamks muslim brother.you are rigth.
radiyallahu anke

 

[kai]

The Qu'ranic revelations were originally memorised by Muslims as Muhammad spoke them, with some being written down on whatever was to hand, from stones to pieces of bark. Compilations of the Qu'ran began under the Caliph Omar, but it was Uthman who decided upon a definitive copy and destoryed all other versions. The Qu'ran has never changed in substance since. It provides Muslims with a complete way of living their lives. It has been called the most beautiful book in Arabic.

could someone explain what happened here?





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qur'an

 

[danielzzr]

just because you cannot explain how something was done doesnt necesarily mean it was made by god.
In this case, we CAN explain this: you are simply interpreting everything the way its more convinient for the belivers of the quran...

 

[Islam]

could someone explain what happened here?[/QUOTE

Lol i took a look and didnt find anything wrong. I didnt read the complete thing though so please just quote what you were talking about and make it easier.

You can debate anything you want but not the Qur'ans corruption.

Here is a picture of Uthmans Quran:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/textual.htm

 

[SerotoninIdler]

How does that prove Islam in any way? Since it does not specifically state any facts, you are just interpreting them as facts. I could find "scientific facts" in Moby Dick if I looked hard enough.

 

[Sapiens]

It's all crap. I don;t know what Moore's motivation was but today he is clearly not proud of what he did or said. In 2002, Moore declined to be interviewed by the Wall Street Journal on the subject of his work on Islam, stating that "it's been ten or eleven years since I was involved in the Qur'an."

 

[David M]

actually the miracuolous signs of quran which agrees with the modernly discovered facts, are not only restricted to embryology

Except that they are not miraculous signs, they are descriptions of things that were common knowledge at the time. During that period miscarriages and stillbirths were much more common than they are today and people had to deal with such things by themselves.

And of course there are the things that are flat out wrong in the Quran.

 

[Looncall]

you already have a thought that if God existed (i know he exists) He woudl be like this, and even if God were to come to you and say Hey Im God then you would reject it like you reject now because you wont see God as you expected Him to be. Thus making this completely pointless.....God exists jsut the fact that science or anythign else for that matter cnat explain the inborn need of man for a higher being or the phenomenon of majority of mankind believing in God, should be sufficient to prove it to you that He exists.

This is nonsense. All people share humaniy's intellectual flaws and mental misfirings. The fact that many people believe something tells us about the people, not the belief.

 

[Sapiens]

....God exists jsut the fact that science or anythign else for that matter cnat explain the inborn need of man for a higher being or the phenomenon of majority of mankind believing in God, should be sufficient to prove it to you that He exists.

Science has explained to inborn "need" of man for a higher being and the phenomenon of majority of mankind believing in God, without any kowtowing to the idea that that provides any actual evidence that a god exists. Much more reasonable, rational and thus probable is: God gene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[gnostic]

The Quran, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago, mentioned facts only recently discovered or proven by scientists. This proves without doubt that the Quran must be the literal word of God, revealed by Him to the Prophet Muhammad , and that the Quran was not authored by Muhammad or by any other human being. This also proves that Muhammad is truly a prophet sent by God. It is beyond reason that anyone fourteen hundred years ago would have known these facts discovered or proven only recently with advanced equipment and sophisticated scientific methods. Some examples follow.

A) The Quran on Human Embryonic Development:
In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man’s embryonic development:

" We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... " (Quran, 23:12-14)

Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.

In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity bet
ween the two2 as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others.

The second meaning of the word alaqah is “suspended thing.” This is what we can see in figures 2 and 3, the suspension of the embryo, during the alaqah stage, in the womb of the mother.

Figure 3: In this photomicrograph, we can see the suspension of an embryo (marked during the alaqah stage (about 15 days old) in the womb of the mother. The actual size of the embryo is about 0.6 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore, 3rd ed., p. 66, from Histology, Leeson and Leeson.)

The third meaning of the word alaqah is “blood clot.” We find that the external appearance of the embryo and its sacs during the alaqah stage is similar to that of a blood clot. This is due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo during this stage4 (see figure 4). Also during this stage, the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week.5 Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood.


So the three meanings of the word alaqah correspond accurately to the descriptions of the embryo at the alaqah stage.

The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghah stage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.”6 (see figures 5 and 6).

When comparing the appearance of an embryo at the mudghah stage with a piece of gum that has been chewed, we find similarity between the two.
A) Drawing of an embryo at the mudghah stage. We can see here the somites at the back of the embryo that look like teeth marks. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 79.)
Photograph of a piece of gum that has been chewed.

How could Muhammad have possibly known all this 1400 years ago, when scientists have only recently discovered this using advanced equipment and powerful microscopes which did not exist at that time? Hamm and Leeuwenhoek were the first scientists to observe human sperm cells (spermatozoa) using an improved microscope in 1677 (more than 1000 years after Muhammad ). They mistakenly thought that the sperm cell contained a miniature preformed human being that grew when it was deposited in the female genital tract.7

Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore8 is one of the world’s most prominent scientists in the fields of anatomy and embryology and is the author of the book entitled The Developing Human, which has been translated into eight languages. This book is a scientific reference work and was chosen by a special committee in the United States as the best book authored by one person. Dr. Keith Moore is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology at the University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. There, he was Associate Dean of Basic Sciences at the Faculty of Medicine and for 8 years was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy. In 1984, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. He has directed many international associations, such as the Canadian and American Association of Anatomists and the Council of the Union of Biological Sciences.

In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Moore said: “It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God.”9 (To view the RealPlayer video of this comment click here ).

Consequently, Professor Moore was asked the following question: “Does this mean that you believe that the Quran is the word of God?” He replied: “I find no difficulty in accepting this.”10

During one conference, Professor Moore stated: “....Because the staging of human embryos is complex, owing to the continuous process of change during development, it is proposed that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah (what Muhammad said, did, or approved of). The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge. The intensive studies of the Quran and hadeeth (reliably transmitted reports by the Prophet Muhammad’s companions of what he said, did, or approved of) in the last four years have revealed a system for classifying human embryos that is amazing since it was recorded in the seventh century A.D. Although Aristotle, the founder of the science of embryology, realized that chick embryos developed in stages from his studies of hen’s eggs in the fourth century B.C., he did not give any details about these stages. As far as it is known from the history of embryology, little was known about the staging and classification of human embryos until the twentieth century. For this reason, the descriptions of the human embryo in the Quran cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the seventh century. The only reasonable conclusion is: these descriptions were revealed to Muhammad from God. He could not have known such details because he was an illiterate man with absolutely no scientific training.”
_______ Comment: Btw there are images of the figures but i cant post links since im new

About 2000 years before the Qur'an (over 1000 years before Genesis), the Akkadian or old Babylonian epic of Atrahasis, the gods created clay and blood to create humans.

Atrahasis was the Babylonian version of Noah, but Atrahasis was originally derived from the older Sumerian Ziusudra, where the originally flood story come from.

So basically, the Qur'an had indirectly borrowed creation myth from the Sumerian and Babylonian creation myth, and there are nothing original or new about the Qur'an version.

Not only that, the Qur'an implied regional flood as opposed to biblical global flood, in the story of Noah. Again, not an original concept since the Ziusudra and Atrahasis myths had also suggest as such.

But in any case, humans do not come from clay originally, they never did. The Qur'an verse (23:12-14) is scientifically flawed and faulty as the Mesopotamian myths, as their illogical leech, blood clot, and embryos metaphors.

 

[Yeshe Dondrub]

14 centuries ago? No Abrahamic concept existed then, now about 600CE Muhammad taught his concept, but he changed, denied some biblical aspects, and ISlam did not exist before that period, The Quran was put together much later, and there are changes to original scripts. Orthadox, suni, ect show differences.

We will simply stop at the incorrect information without needing to go into the others.

 

[Sapiens]

The Islamic imaginator seems to be running overtime and in opposite directions, is the Muslim scientist who claims the earth is flat or the one who thinks he's a born again embryologist the lead dog?