Scientists (or Historians) specialists in their fields might be quacks in Religion?

[paarsurrey]

Hey, I'm an atheist. When do I get my copy of the Atheist agenda?
Question for you, paarsurrey. As someone who regularly defends Islam, and rails against people's misconceptions and generalisations, do you ever feel like maybe...just maybe...atheists come in a variety of flavours?

Your copy is with Richard Dawkins, please. Please contact him to get one.
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[Jumi]

Your copy is with Richard Dawkins, please. Please contact him to get one.
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That's wrong.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Just to say, I concur with @Skwim on the fact that given the choice of any god you could follow why pick the spoiled brat?

^ This

 

[paarsurrey]

That's wrong.

You are right.
Richard Dawkins is the number one leader/spokesperson of the New Atheist, and he has sort of organized them. Right?
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[kerndog]

Scientists (or Historians ) specialists in their fields might be quacks in Religion, therefore, their opinion about religious matters have no value.
Regards

Christendom AND Islam have a tremendous amount of explaining to do to God an Christ for their atrocities the last 2000 Years I see you as just another hypocrite who does not like having his feet held to the fire ! THIS HISTORY IS A FACT, easily proven then; and today ( still commiting same atrocities ) John 13:34-35....Romans 12:9...1 John 2:9.....1 John 4:20 ( "Hates his fellow Christian" NET Bible ) and finally , the outcome of these ones who perpetuate violence in the name of God, REVELATION 18:24 !! .....REVELATION 19:17-18.... Like I said , ALL of this is can be proven with undisputable proof, CARE TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS ??

 

[paarsurrey]

Christendom AND Islam have a tremendous amount of explaining to do to God an Christ for their atrocities the last 2000 Years I see you as just another hypocrite who does not like having his feet held to the fire ! THIS HISTORY IS A FACT, easily proven then; and today ( still commiting same atrocities ) John 13:34, 35....Romans 12:9...1 John 2:9.....1 John 4:20 ( "Hates his fellow Christian" NET Bible ) and finally , the outcome of these ones who perpetuate violence in the name of God, REVELATION 18:24 !! .....REVELATION 19:17,18.... Like I said , ALL of this is can be proven with undisputable proof, CARE TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS ??

You are simply wrong.
Islam has always been charitable, Islam committed no, repeat no, repeat no atrocities on any person any moment during the time of Muhammad or any-time afterwards.
This is however off-topic as the topic here is "Scientists (or Historians) specialists in their fields might be quacks in Religion?".
You may express yourself fully in the thread "Was Islam spread by the sword? " or "Is there a complete list of countries where Islam spread by the sword?" or in both of them if you like.
Are you a scientist or an historian? Please
Regards

 

[metis]

Scientists (or Historians ) specialists in their fields might be quacks in Religion, therefore, their opinion about religious matters have no value.
Regards

Or is it that "Theists specialists in their fields might be quacks in Science, therefore, their opinion about scientific matters have no value". What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[kerndog]

You are simply wrong.
Islam has always been charitable, Islam committed no, repeat no, repeat no atrocities on any person any moment during the time of Muhammad or any-time afterwards.
This is however off-topic as the topic here is "Scientists (or Historians) specialists in their fields might be quacks in Religion?".
You may express yourself fully in the thread "Was Islam spread by the sword? " or "Is there a complete list of countries where Islam spread by the sword?" or in both of them if you like.
Are you a scientist or an historian? Please
Regards

Are you seriously going to tell me, that at least a large part of islam, has committed no, atrocities ? They do the same things as Christians, they kill their fellow Christians by demonizing them as apostates, and thus deserving of death, ISLAM does the exact same thing only they have at least have a name for it " TAKFIR " , thus again deserving of death. Do not urinate down my back and tell me its raining, I KNOW BETTER ! It is what it is ! Even my grandchildren know the difference !

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said: ↑
You are simply wrong.
Islam has always been charitable, Islam committed no, repeat no, repeat no atrocities on any person any moment during the time of Muhammad or any-time afterwards.
This is however off-topic as the topic here is "Scientists (or Historians) specialists in their fields might be quacks in Religion?".
You may express yourself fully in the thread "Was Islam spread by the sword? " or "Is there a complete list of countries where Islam spread by the sword?"or in both of them if you like.
Are you a scientist or an historian? Please
Regards

Are you seriously going to tell me, that at least a large part of islam, has committed no, atrocities ? They do the same things as Christians, they kill their fellow Christians by demonizing them as apostates, and thus deserving of death, ISLAM does the exact same thing only they have at least have a name for it " TAKFIR " , thus again deserving of death. Do not urinate down my back and tell me its raining, I KNOW BETTER ! It is what it is ! Even my grandchildren know the difference !

I think I made the point very clear and I have even now coloured it in magenta.
There are proper thread that I mentioned and emboldened them in the post. Please post there, it is off-topic here.
Regards

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Richard Dawkins is the number one leader/spokesperson of the New Atheist, and he has sort of organized them.

Saint Dawkins is far too modest to take a leadership role.

 

[kerndog]

paarsurrey said: ↑
You are simply wrong.
Islam has always been charitable, Islam committed no, repeat no, repeat no atrocities on any person any moment during the time of Muhammad or any-time afterwards.
This is however off-topic as the topic here is "Scientists (or Historians) specialists in their fields might be quacks in Religion?".
You may express yourself fully in the thread "Was Islam spread by the sword? " or "Is there a complete list of countries where Islam spread by the sword?"or in both of them if you like.
Are you a scientist or an historian? Please
Regards

I think I made the point very clear and I have even now coloured it in magenta.
There are proper thread that I mentioned and emboldened them in the post. Please post there, it is off-topic here.
Regards

With all do respect, you have made no point at all, you made a statement with no substance, if that is your best attempt, i have nothing more say to you on this topic, peace to you !

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Your copy is with Richard Dawkins, please. Please contact him to get one.
Regards

I assume you're referring to the God Delusion. I've never read it.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

You are right.
Richard Dawkins is the number one leader/spokesperson of the New Atheist, and he has sort of organized them. Right?
Regards

Who is them? Atheists? No. No, good luck organizing us.
What he does have are some followers, most of whom (I assume) are atheists with similar views to his.

 

[Kapalika]

Scientists (or Historians ) specialists in their fields might be quacks in Religion, therefore, their opinion about religious matters have no value.
Regards

[sarcasm] Well guys, he has us beat. Because they *might* be "quacks" in regards to their religious opinions, we can automatically dismiss any legitimate criticism or contradiction they might raise. [/sarcasm]

 

[kerndog]

[sarcasm] Well guys, he has us beat. Because they *might* be "quacks" in regards to their religious opinions, we can automatically dismiss any legitimate criticism or contradiction they might raise. [/sarcasm]

In my best Yule Brenner impersonation...." So let it be written, So let it be done ! "

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

You are simply wrong.
Islam has always been charitable, Islam committed no, repeat no, repeat no atrocities on any person any moment during the time of Muhammad or any-time afterwards.

The sheer level of self-deceit and wilful ignorance required to type the above statement and truly believe it is jaw-dropping; breath-taking even.

The only person who is "simply wrong" here is you.

 

[kerndog]

The sheer level of self-deceit and wilful ignorance required to type the above statement and truly believe it is jaw-dropping; breath-taking even.

The only person who is "simply wrong" here is you.

Amazing , isn't it ? the subject was a historians views on religion are nothing but quacks, I then made the observation about violence in religion, historians have questioned this for many many years. History HAS PROVEN that this is a FACT, he then ( Paarsurey ) tried to insinuate that HIS religion is not, nor has it ever been involved in atrocities commited by HIS faith ( Islam ) HISTORY has PROVEN that this is a total fabrication on his part ! Thus the reason for me saying he was urinating down my back, and then trying to say that it is merely raining. He made absolutely , no statement of fact to support this, on the other hand HISTORY can give many factual accounts that it definetly has commited unsanctioned violence and atrocities in the name of god, and so has Christianity, many books written by Professors from many major colledges and seminaries around the world on the subject, one I highly recommend is Professor Phillip Jenkins from Baylor university in Waco texas, a professor of religious HISTORY, the book " The great and holy war, how WW I changed religion forever " It was a stunning revelation on how sly clergy and Islam commited so much unsanctioned violence in the name of god, that it is still reverberating with us to this day !!!

 

[paarsurrey]

Amazing , isn't it ? the subject was a historians views on religion are nothing but quacks, I then made the observation about violence in religion, historians have questioned this for many many years. History HAS PROVEN that this is a FACT, he then ( Paarsurey ) tried to insinuate that HIS religion is not, nor has it ever been involved in atrocities commited by HIS faith ( Islam ) HISTORY has PROVEN that this is a total fabrication on his part ! Thus the reason for me saying he was urinating down my back, and then trying to say that it is merely raining. He made absolutely , no statement of fact to support this, on the other hand HISTORY can give many factual accounts that it definetly has commited unsanctioned violence and atrocities in the name of god, and so has Christianity, many books written by Professors from many major colledges and seminaries around the world on the subject, one I highly recommend is Professor Phillip Jenkins from Baylor university in Waco texas, a professor of religious HISTORY, the book " The great and holy war, how WW I changed religion forever " It was a stunning revelation on how sly clergy and Islam commited so much unsanctioned violence in the name of god, that it is still reverberating with us to this day !!!

One may like to read Post #144 in another thread "Is there a complete list of countries where Islam spread by the sword?" in this connection.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Amazing , isn't it ? the subject was a historians views on religion are nothing but quacks, I then made the observation about violence in religion, historians have questioned this for many many years. History HAS PROVEN that this is a FACT, he then ( Paarsurey ) tried to insinuate that HIS religion is not, nor has it ever been involved in atrocities commited by HIS faith ( Islam ) HISTORY has PROVEN that this is a total fabrication on his part ! Thus the reason for me saying he was urinating down my back, and then trying to say that it is merely raining. He made absolutely , no statement of fact to support this, on the other hand HISTORY can give many factual accounts that it definetly has commited unsanctioned violence and atrocities in the name of god, and so has Christianity, many books written by Professors from many major colledges and seminaries around the world on the subject, one I highly recommend is Professor Phillip Jenkins from Baylor university in Waco texas, a professor of religious HISTORY, the book " The great and holy war, how WW I changed religion forever " It was a stunning revelation on how sly clergy and Islam commited so much unsanctioned violence in the name of god, that it is still reverberating with us to this day !!!

History creates no facts it only provides opinions of the historians.
Regards

 

[cambridge79]

Scientists (or Historians ) specialists in their fields might be quacks in Religion, therefore, their opinion about religious matters have no value.
Regards

your argument is not only weak but either dishonest or ignorant, not something i would be proud of if i were you.

what if it's a religion that gives an historical account, like with the exodus, and historians can prove that account to be wrong purely providing historical evidences?

They're not doing "religion" they're doing history.