nPeace
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I just decided on this title after reading this...
A social media post from a Utah high school student threatening to carry out a “rape day” — and telling girls they won’t be able to hide — has sowed fear in a rural community here.
Girls at Cedar High, in the southern town of Cedar City, say they don’t feel safe. The other boys included in the picture that the student posted say they didn’t know about his caption and are now facing death threats themselves by being caught up in it.
The brave girls in the school should probably post a notice.... SCREAM DAY - Anyone tries to or threatens to rape you... SCREAM.
The teachers should probably educate themselves and the students, on the best action to take, lest we have more cases like this...
I am 17 andI think my ex-boyfriend raped me. He would scream at me and push me around and call me names if I wouldn’t have sex with him. I was really afraid of him so I learned not to say no and I would give in every time. Is that considered rape? I really need to know. I told my parents and they said that it is but I am not for sure if they are right. Please help me.
Some 17 year olds are naive and or ignorant, so they really need help, understanding things.
Is screaming the proper thing to do?
During an interview, one expert was asked... That question - why didn't you scream? - how often is that put to people who are alleged victims of rape in a courtroom setting?
His response... It's a common question, that question and some variation on it, having to do with what the victim did to resist, either physically or verbally, the assault.
To another question regarding state laws in the past, and today, he responded... The notion that a victim must resist to the utmost or to show earnest resistance or, at the very least, reasonable resistance, all of this was baked into rape law from its origins, frankly. And still today, we see vestiges of that. While most states have moved away from this formal resistance requirement, there are aspects of rape law that continue to put a burden on victims to do something, whether it's physical or verbal, to show their unwillingness.
According to Charlotte Police Education... Respond physically.
Even clear communication is not always effective. Some people simply don't listen or don't care. If either person is intoxicated of high, it may also complicate the situation. However, it is not an excuse for someone to commit sexual assault. If someone is assaulting you and not responding to your objections, you have the right to respond physically or to physically defend yourself if you feel you can do so. If possible, push the person away, scream "No!", and say that you consider what the person is doing to be rape.
Only recently, a judge made a decision which some people were not too happy about.
A sexual assault case was tossed because the woman didn’t scream during alleged attack
A judge in Turin in northern Italy tossed the case last month, deciding that the woman's reaction was too weak to justify a sexual assault charge, ANSA reported. The woman only said, “Stop it” and “Enough” without crying out or calling for help.
The woman said that, perhaps, she should have been more forceful, but “with people who are too strong, I just freeze,” she said, according to the BBC.
This is all very interesting to me, because it's one of the things JWs encourage women, to do, when attacked by a rapist, and it is based on a principle that was used in giving instructions to God's people, centuries ago.
(Deuteronomy 22:23-29)
The double spoiler is an RF bug. Sorry.
There is a misconception among many who read these verse.
They think the verses are giving instructions that an alleged victim of rape should marry here rapist.
However, that is a misunderstanding of what the verse actually says.
In each case, the evidence used, determined the judgment.
On the one hand, the girl did not scream, and they were discovered. Both were guilty, as there was evidence of consent.
On the other hand, the girl screamed, but was not rescued. The girl was innocent, as there was evidence of rape.
In the other case, there was no evidence of rape, but consent... as in the first case.
The action of screaming was... and still is very significant in judging this difficult matter.
Many seem to be finding this out, for themselves.
“The driver didn’t take me home. Instead, he drove me to an abandoned field, where he tried to rape me. I screamed with all my might, and he backed off. When he came toward me again, I screamed and ran.
“In the past I had often thought, ‘How can screaming help?’ But I’ve learned that it works!”
There is a day for everything - a day to scream.
Scream girls. Scream.
A social media post from a Utah high school student threatening to carry out a “rape day” — and telling girls they won’t be able to hide — has sowed fear in a rural community here.
Girls at Cedar High, in the southern town of Cedar City, say they don’t feel safe. The other boys included in the picture that the student posted say they didn’t know about his caption and are now facing death threats themselves by being caught up in it.
The brave girls in the school should probably post a notice.... SCREAM DAY - Anyone tries to or threatens to rape you... SCREAM.
The teachers should probably educate themselves and the students, on the best action to take, lest we have more cases like this...
I am 17 andI think my ex-boyfriend raped me. He would scream at me and push me around and call me names if I wouldn’t have sex with him. I was really afraid of him so I learned not to say no and I would give in every time. Is that considered rape? I really need to know. I told my parents and they said that it is but I am not for sure if they are right. Please help me.
Some 17 year olds are naive and or ignorant, so they really need help, understanding things.
Is screaming the proper thing to do?
During an interview, one expert was asked... That question - why didn't you scream? - how often is that put to people who are alleged victims of rape in a courtroom setting?
His response... It's a common question, that question and some variation on it, having to do with what the victim did to resist, either physically or verbally, the assault.
To another question regarding state laws in the past, and today, he responded... The notion that a victim must resist to the utmost or to show earnest resistance or, at the very least, reasonable resistance, all of this was baked into rape law from its origins, frankly. And still today, we see vestiges of that. While most states have moved away from this formal resistance requirement, there are aspects of rape law that continue to put a burden on victims to do something, whether it's physical or verbal, to show their unwillingness.
According to Charlotte Police Education... Respond physically.
Even clear communication is not always effective. Some people simply don't listen or don't care. If either person is intoxicated of high, it may also complicate the situation. However, it is not an excuse for someone to commit sexual assault. If someone is assaulting you and not responding to your objections, you have the right to respond physically or to physically defend yourself if you feel you can do so. If possible, push the person away, scream "No!", and say that you consider what the person is doing to be rape.
Only recently, a judge made a decision which some people were not too happy about.
A sexual assault case was tossed because the woman didn’t scream during alleged attack
A judge in Turin in northern Italy tossed the case last month, deciding that the woman's reaction was too weak to justify a sexual assault charge, ANSA reported. The woman only said, “Stop it” and “Enough” without crying out or calling for help.
The woman said that, perhaps, she should have been more forceful, but “with people who are too strong, I just freeze,” she said, according to the BBC.
This is all very interesting to me, because it's one of the things JWs encourage women, to do, when attacked by a rapist, and it is based on a principle that was used in giving instructions to God's people, centuries ago.
(Deuteronomy 22:23-29)
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“If a virgin is engaged to a man, and another man happens to meet her in the city and lies down with her, 24 you should bring them both out to the gate of that city and stone them to death, the girl because she did not scream in the city and the man because he humiliated the wife of his fellow man. So you must remove what is evil from your midst. 25 “If, however, the man happened to meet the engaged girl in the field and the man overpowered her and lay down with her, the man who lay down with her is to die by himself, 26 and you must do nothing to the girl. The girl has not committed a sin deserving of death. This case is the same as when a man attacks his fellow man and murders him. 27 For he happened to meet her in the field, and the engaged girl screamed, but there was no one to rescue her. 28 “If a man happens to meet a virgin girl who is not engaged and he seizes her and lies down with her and they are discovered, 29 the man who lay down with her must give the girl’s father 50 silver shekels, and she will become his wife. Because he humiliated her, he will not be allowed to divorce her as long as he lives.
There is a misconception among many who read these verse.
They think the verses are giving instructions that an alleged victim of rape should marry here rapist.
However, that is a misunderstanding of what the verse actually says.
In each case, the evidence used, determined the judgment.
On the one hand, the girl did not scream, and they were discovered. Both were guilty, as there was evidence of consent.
On the other hand, the girl screamed, but was not rescued. The girl was innocent, as there was evidence of rape.
In the other case, there was no evidence of rape, but consent... as in the first case.
The action of screaming was... and still is very significant in judging this difficult matter.
Many seem to be finding this out, for themselves.
“The driver didn’t take me home. Instead, he drove me to an abandoned field, where he tried to rape me. I screamed with all my might, and he backed off. When he came toward me again, I screamed and ran.
“In the past I had often thought, ‘How can screaming help?’ But I’ve learned that it works!”
There is a day for everything - a day to scream.
Scream girls. Scream.