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Searching for the real Jesus
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angellous_evangellous
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I'm not being cranky. It's just that this kid is at least 200 years behind the 8 ball, and it's unpleasant and frustrating for me to watch it dawn on him so slowly.
I really do hope that there's not a professor of history or religion out there who doesn't know of this stuff, but they are doomed to suffer through yet another asinine paper on the subject.
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Imagine that: not even evidence corroborating a miracle!
You know, sometimes people are curious about topics. Sometimes it's no more than a casual interest. And sometimes ...
Sometimes opening posts serve as thinly veiled opening salvos in a hoped for polemic. The real intent is not to address matters of interest but slide into rhetorical debate. So, for example, questions such as ...
Does anyone know of any extra-biblical evidence that Jesus walked on water?
... are more than a little hard to take seriously. Perhaps this thread is different. Let's wait and see.
Bob L
Member
First of all, dude, I'm not a kid. I'm 57 years old, so my kid days are long behind me. Second of all, your arrogance is unbelievable. I'm trying to increase my knowledge of an imprtant time in human history, and you won't even begrudge me that. And if you find it so "unpleasant and frustrating for me to watch it dawn on him so slowly", then why don't you bugger off to some other thread. Nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to be here.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
First of all, dude, I'm not a kid. I'm 57 years old, so my kid days are long behind me. Second of all, your arrogance is unbelievable. I'm trying to increase my knowledge of an imprtant time in human history, and you won't even begrudge me that. And if you find it so "unpleasant and frustrating for me to watch it dawn on him so slowly", then why don't you bugger off to some other thread. Nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to be here.
Well, crap.
Bob L
Member
Polemic? I don't know enough about the subject to engage in polemics, any arguments i present would be shot down by more knowledgable people such as yourself. Like you said, let's see where this leads...
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Nobody has a gun to your head forcing you to be here.
I suppose it wouldn't make you feel better if I pointed out that I wasn't talking to you.
Bob L
Member
I suppose it wouldn't make you feel better if I pointed out that I wasn't talking to you.
Well, gee, how's about enlightening us and telling us just who you were talking to!
With baited breath ...
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Well, gee, how's about enlightening us and telling us just who you were talking to!
I would suspect that (because you're new to the forums and you aren't paying attention) you are the only one who doesn't know who I was talking to. However, I am happy to clarify.
I was talking to the person that I was quoting: Storm.
Bob L
Member
I may be new to this forum, and yes, perhaps I wasn't paying attention, but believe me, this isn't the first forum I've posted to. And since you seem to enjoy being condescending to me, I've taken the liberty to quote what you originally posted. Forgive me if I'm mistaken , but what you posted here definitely gave me the impression you were referring to me. And, after having gone over all the posts on this thread, I can't see who else you could mean. You say it was meant for Storm, but that's not the impression I got when reading this.
Anyways, no matter. Time to move on. If you want the last word, then help yourself.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
OK. Retirement plans.
So where have we been so far?
- Looking at the history of Rome for similarities to America
- Examining the problems related to the historicity of Jesus
- Thinking about the verification/historicity of miracles
Any other thoughts?
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
*kicks can*
Bob L
Member
OK, since I was last here I've had a significant change in my outlook on all things pertaining to God, Jesus, and religion in general. I've become an atheist. There is no evidence of God or gods, Jesus may or may not have even existed but he was certainly no Son of God (since there is no God), and religion is in my opinion a bunch of BS. So I've "found" the "real" Jesus, and he's come up lacking.
All that determined in a mere 5 months. Wow! :thud:
In AE's defense (from someone who has come off much worse after dealing with this subject on this forum for a tiny fraction of the time AE has), it's hard to know who's starting a thread with a title like "Searching for the real Jesus" because they want to know, and who's simply interested in promoting a view they already have. My experience here (and on a similar forum I joined later, for a total of two I've ever been a part of) has already resulted in quite a few such threads and so far none of them were started by people actually interested in learning.
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fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
I agree, there is no evidence of God or gods. There is also no evidence the other way either. That should be fine.
However, if you actually read scholars on Jesus, and I mean credible scholars, they don't refer to Jesus as the Son of God in a literal sense. It is the same way that scholars don't think that Augustus was the son of a god, in a literal sense.
So I doubt you have found the real Jesus, because you haven't described anything here that would suggest such. You have just described how you have become an atheist, and now think religion is a bunch of BS (even though I would disagree completely, especially seeing how religion can be very helpful).