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Seeing things in their past? You are full of beans!

james blunt

Well-Known Member
It all depends if the person wants to learn or not. For someone who wants to learn, it is possible, although it may take a while.

For someone who doens't want to learn, it is impossible.
Define learning?

If you teach something that is wrong, somebody points out why it is wrong, wouldn't you want to be taught back the correct version?
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I did support my fact, it is not a claim it is a physical fact of measure. It has been demonstrated. I will not be subjected to lengthy discussions of circular argument because it is beyond your own personal level of understanding and ability.

You didn't demonstrate anything. You made a claim 0+(+0)=1x without explanation or meaning.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Define learning?

If you teach something that is wrong, somebody points out why it is wrong, wouldn't you want to be taught back the correct version?

If you are so convinced you are right that you won't accept guidance, then there can be no learning.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Let me try to help one more time. The number of points between any two unequal points (that is different points, if you have two points at one location you have in fact only one point) is infinite. There is no such thing as "adjoining points) since geometric points have no spatial dimensions. They have no length depth or width, they have only location. At any rate here is a quote from an online source:

"Let's assume that your end points are A(0,0) and B(1,0).

Try to find a point in between them. Ok you found C(0.4,0).

Now try finding another point. Will you ever NOT be able to find another point? No, because there are infinite numbers between 0 and 1 (just think of decimals).

In the same way there are infinite points in a line segment."


Why/How are there infinite points in a line segment?

If you have two points then by definition there is space between them and that is filled with an infinite number of points.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No i didn't , I have explained several times now, a point immediately next to a point is 1 length of x.
And as I have corrected you oh so many times, there is no such thing as a point immediately next to a point in geometry.

If you believe there is such give an example. We will need the location of each point.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
That's a correct equation of geometry , a point plus one point displacement is a two point length , the smallest possible measurement in the universe.

NAi easily accepts that to be true.

Nope. A point plus a point is two points. Total 'length' of the two points is 0.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
In a R³ space,

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= (0) + (+0) = 1x

Nothing here meaningful.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I did support my fact, it is not a claim it is a physical fact of measure. It has been demonstrated. I will not be subjected to lengthy discussions of circular argument because it is beyond your own personal level of understanding and ability.

No, you only made an unsupported claim again, which I told you would be taken as and admission that you were wrong.

And you seem to be conflating physical facts with geometry. They are not the same. Learning the difference would be very helpful for you in your future debates.
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
Nope. A point plus a point is two points. Total 'length' of the two points is 0.
No, that would be not displacing the point , one point to the right or -1 point to the left etc.

You are occupying the same point space with your second point, this cannot happen, a point cannot occupy another point.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No, that would be not displacing the point , one point to the right or -1 point to the left etc.

You are occupying the same point space with your second point, this cannot happen, a point cannot occupy another point.

Okay, I agree, if two points are in the same location then they are one point.

Now put some numbers on your example of two points. You can't have a vague undefined distance between the two of them.
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
I am attempting to show you where you are wrong and to correct you. You don't want to listen.
Correct me on ?

I am not wrong about my own notions, that would be an absurd suggestion. Show where my notions are falsifiable?

This does not mean present information from your memory and say because it is written this way .
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
Okay, I agree, if two points are in the same location then they are one point.

Now put some numbers on your example of two points. You can't have a vague undefined distance between the two of them.
I did put the numbers, I will measure it one day and tell you then exactly how many points are in a mm.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
No, that would be not displacing the point , one point to the right or -1 point to the left etc.

You are occupying the same point space with your second point, this cannot happen, a point cannot occupy another point.

Yes, if it is the same point, you get one point out. If you have different points, you get two points, not a line.
 
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