Seeing things in their past? You are full of beans!

[A Vestigial Mote]

I couldn't care less what mainstream garbage says it is , it is a time.

3.154e+7.s * 299 792 458 m = 1ly

Try again...

The only amount of "time" associated with the term "lightyear" is "year" - but that is only a frame of reference for the unit, not an indication that the measurement of time plays a part in its reality. A "lightyear" is definitively only a distance. I think what is confusing you is the inclusion of the word "year" in its name. It could have been called anything else... "megaspan", "spacec", "longone", "lightshot" - it wouldn't matter what. And were it called any of those, it would still be the same thing... a unit measuring distance.

Fairly recently the definition of a "meter" was also defined in terms of light, to make the unit itself more robust, constant and exacting:

1 meter = the distance light travels in 1/299,792,458 of a second​

Would you say that a meter also imparts some amount of time also because of this definition? I'll give you a hint... if you say "yes", you'd be wrong.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Huh? I see the distraction has arrived.

Answer the question:

If someone fired a gun at the earth from 2 ly away with a bullet travelling at 500 m/s, are you saying that it would take two years to reach the Earth since a ly is a measurement of time?

 

[james blunt]

Answer the question:

If someone fired a gun at the earth from 2 ly away with a bullet travelling at 500 m/s, are you saying that it would take two years to reach the Earth since a ly is a measurement of time?

500m/s ? Would take longer

299 792 458 m / s

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

500m/s ? Would take longer

But it is 2 ly away and a ly is a measure of time, so it has to be 2 years according to your argument.

299 792 458 m / s

The m stands for distance. You are claiming that a ly is a measurement of time, so there shouldn't be a distance in there.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

500m/s ? Would take longer

299 792 458 m / s

You missed the obvious point of the post. It was to get you to have to admit that "lightyear" is not a measure of time - something you claimed at the start of this thread. Because yes... traveling a DISTANCE of a lightyear (or two as the case may be), it very obviously depends on the velocity the object is traveling as to how much TIME it will take to travel that distance.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I couldn't care less what mainstream garbage says it is , it is a time.

3.154e+7.s * 299 792 458 m = 1ly

Try again...

It's not just 'mainstream garbage' that says it. You are flat-out wrong on this.

 

[james blunt]

It's not just 'mainstream garbage' that says it. You are flat-out wrong on this.

No I am not, you are speaking from your Ai and not from you.

 

[james blunt]

You missed the obvious point of the post. It was to get you to have to admit that "lightyear" is not a measure of time - something you claimed at the start of this thread. Because yes... traveling a DISTANCE of a lightyear (or two as the case may be), it very obviously depends on the velocity the object is traveling as to how much TIME it will take to travel that distance.

Can you admit that all that you think you know is everything you have learnt and there is nothing in your own mind that is you ?

The very words you speak are not even your words.

You inherited these words by special permissions.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

No I am not, you are speaking from your Ai and not from you.

My Ai. Right.
Meanwhile, you're incorrect.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Wow.

 

[james blunt]

My Ai. Right.
Meanwhile, you're incorrect.

Your Ai will say that because it is in your programming code. You are in error, a damaged modular.

 

[james blunt]

Wow.

Yes wow....Fix your function , run the self repair program.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Can you admit that all that you think you know is everything you have learnt and there is nothing in your own mind that is you ?

The very words you speak are not even your words.

You inherited these words by special permissions.

That object you see flying through the air is a red herring.

 

[james blunt]

Say it ......

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Wow.

That's what happens when a hardcore conspiracy theorists realizes that the m in m/s is a measurement of distance.

 

[james blunt]

That object you see flying through the air is a red herring.

Maybe it is a kipper.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Can you admit that all that you think you know is everything you have learnt and there is nothing in your own mind that is you ?

The very words you speak are not even your words.

You inherited these words by special permissions.

Look... I get that you have finally realized how wrong you are and that this "the world is all abstract" schtick is just you trying to backpedal your way out of being called out... but the fact remains that you were trying to utilize the consensus-accepted meaning of the word "lightyear" but botched it horribly due to a lack of understanding on your part. You don't just get to redefine the word "lightyear" for everyone else who is already using the accepted term, just to save face. It doesn't work that way. That's the way to getting yourself discredited, ignored or worse.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Maybe it is a kipper.

Still a red herring.

 

[james blunt]

Look... I get that you have finally realized how wrong you are and that this "the world is all abstract" schtick is just you trying to backpedal your way out of being called out... but the fact remains that you were trying to utilize the consensus-accepted meaning of the word "lightyear" but botched it horribly due to a lack of understanding on your part. You don't just get to redefine the word "lightyear" for everyone else who is already using the accepted term, just to save face. It doesn't work that way. That's the way to getting yourself discredited, ignored or worse.

You are not bypassing your Ai, taking control of the system, you are in error .

 

[Polymath257]

No,because we are discussing a light year , a specific quantification.

Exactly. A specific *distance*. In particular, the distance light travels in one year. A velocity times a time is a distance.